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Nos's "The Sting" Stamplar DPS Guide (Summerset ready)

EDITS:

06/01/18  - Updated for Summerset

Race:

Redguard

Attributes:

All in Stamina

Food:

Health/Stam/Regen

Mundus:

Lover

Champion Point Distribution:

Blue tree:

Master at Arms 44, Mighty 64, Precise Strikes 56, Thaumaturge 56, Piercing 30

Gear choice (Solo Stam DPS in Raid):

7/7 Medium Divines

5 Perfected Arms of Reloquen

2 Velidreth/Stormfist/Selene

5 Ravager (Weapons and Jewelry)

Use the following weapon traits:

1 Nirn Dagger (Poison/Prismatic enchant) – in Main Hand

1 Infused Dagger (Weapon damage enchant) – in Off-Hand

1 Nirn vMA Bow

All Armor with Stamina Enchants. All Jewelry Bloodthirsty with Weapon damage enchants.

Bar Setup

https://imgur.com/a/M8AYd

Rotation:

Pre Rotation: Trap>Bar Swap

Step 1: Endless Hail>LA>Poison Injection>LA>Razor Caltrops>BallistaBar Swap (animation cancel)

Step 2: LA>PotL>LA>Rending Slashes>LA>Biting Jabs>LA>Biting Jabs>LA>Blade Cloak>LA>Power of the Light>Bar Swap

Step 3: Repeat Step 1

Step 4: LA>Rending Slashes>HA>PotL>LA>Trap>LA>Biting Jabs>LA>Biting Jabs>LA>Blade Cloak>LA>Power of the Light>Bar Swap

Repeat steps 2 and 3. If stamina gets low swap "LA>Jabs>LA>Jabs>LA>Cloak>LA" to "HA>Jabs>HA>Cloak>HA"

Rotation Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfsOV4M7YsA

Questions:

1. Why Velidreth/Stormfist/Selene?

Velidreth buffs damage and can hit certain bosses multiple times, on bosses that can be only hit once use Selene, which also procs off of Reloquen. Use Stormfist in AoE.

2. Why Ravager?

It procs off of the damage of Reloquen and has a very high uptime (75%)

3. Parses

From old patch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bh8qXLNQgg&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFcAQVb-xG8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGvvz5hOmng

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134 Replies
  1. #21

    jombbi

    Member32 Posts

    Farming is pretty much over in SO after the fix, if you know what i mean :P got a axe. need one more peice now...

    Toxic PAWS- RedGaurd-StamDK

    -Item Expired-RedGaurd-Stam Templar

     

  2. #22

    Nosferatuzod

    Member2010 Posts
    jombbi wrote on August 3, 2016

    Farming is pretty much over in SO after the fix, if you know what i mean got a axe. need one more peice now…

    Yup

  3. #23

    jombbi

    Member32 Posts

    <b><i>"TBS on a Stam build is a giant DPS loss. Nightmothers is better than TBS, even with 100% uptime on major force. Hundings loses to TBS, but only on a non-khajit. A khajit benefits the least from TBS. But Flanking set, viper set, nightmothers, Alkosh set are all better than TBS. Stam builds have way too high of a weapon damage modifier this patch to warrant using TBS."</i></b>

    this is a comment of yours on one of the other stam Templars build on forum. Can you please explain as in your build you have suggested TBS over night mother given difference is very small.

    I've a khajit Templar, so would it be better to go NM or TBS or plain Hunding. I'm really confused now. ATM w/ only 2 Devine/ thief stone/ 7 medium my crit is 70% which will go up another 10-12% once I do full 7 devine. so with 80% or close crit what is better option?

    Toxic PAWS- RedGaurd-StamDK

    -Item Expired-RedGaurd-Stam Templar

     

  4. #24

    Nosferatuzod

    Member2010 Posts
    jombbi wrote on August 4, 2016

    <b><i>”TBS on a Stam build is a giant DPS loss. Nightmothers is better than TBS, even with 100% uptime on major force. Hundings loses to TBS, but only on a non-khajit. A khajit benefits the least from TBS. But Flanking set, viper set, nightmothers, Alkosh set are all better than TBS. Stam builds have way too high of a weapon damage modifier this patch to warrant using TBS.”</i></b>

    this is a comment of yours on one of the other stam Templars build on forum. Can you please explain as in your build you have suggested TBS over night mother given difference is very small.

    I’ve a khajit Templar, so would it be better to go NM or TBS or plain Hunding. I’m really confused now. ATM w/ only 2 Devine/ thief stone/ 7 medium my crit is 70% which will go up another 10-12% once I do full 7 devine. so with 80% or close crit what is better option?

    Hey, so as you can tell from the date, this comment was from the previous DLC and at the time was accurate. Currently here is what holds true. NM is BiS, unless someone else is already running it. TBS is now BiS right after Nightmothers. The difference between the two is small. Hundings is a terrible set for stamina, in part due to vMA weapons. On a stamplar since you're not using them it isn't as bad, but much worse than the other options. Alkosh is better than TBS, but only because of the Minor Slayer buff, but since we now have Vicious Ophidian, it makes Alkosh lose to TBS since we get to keep both Minor Slayer and TBS. Viper is decent, but again it is only good for single target, of which there are so few fights nowadays in endgame. For a stamplar in the current patch, you really have only 3 options that are decent, that are all paired with TBS (or NM is no one is running it):

    1. 5VO 2 Velidreth

    2. 5 Viper 2 Velidreth

    3. 3 VO 2 Velidreth 2 VDSA daggers

    Setups 2 and 3 are great for single target, while setup 1 is best for single target and AoE. Another thing that is amazing about 5 VO is that as a khajit you do not possess the redguard's resource replenishment, so VO mitigates that quiet nicely.

  5. #25

    jombbi

    Member32 Posts

    One dropped :D took 100+ runs...

    http://imgur.com/a/VWfxJ

    Toxic PAWS- RedGaurd-StamDK

    -Item Expired-RedGaurd-Stam Templar

     

  6. #26

    Adhal

    Member2 Posts

    Im curious if you have tried the Red Mountain set, the proc on it is pretty good. For me it is hitting for 11k on a 2 sec cd and will proc off Dots. The set up I am trying to go with is 5 Red mountain, 5 VO, and 2 Velidreth. I do not have VO or Velidreth yet though.

  7. #27

    jombbi

    Member32 Posts

    There was a post about it on the ZOS forums. Though no one has confirmed anything on that. Atleast the theorycrafters...it's be a great set if works for those who cant do trials or have no access to trial gear.

    Toxic PAWS- RedGaurd-StamDK

    -Item Expired-RedGaurd-Stam Templar

     

  8. #28

    Nosferatuzod

    Member2010 Posts
    Adhal wrote on August 8, 2016

    Im curious if you have tried the Red Mountain set, the proc on it is pretty good. For me it is hitting for 11k on a 2 sec cd and will proc off Dots. The set up I am trying to go with is 5 Red mountain, 5 VO, and 2 Velidreth. I do not have VO or Velidreth yet though.

    Hey can you please elaborate on it? I don't have it, but I went on the PTS and tested it with bow/DW. Every bow skill and dual wield skill that I would use for single target seemed to proc it. The only issue was that even though I applied endless hail, Poison Injection, Rending Slashes, and started Rapid Strikes weaving I could not get a proc to go off more than once every 5 seconds. How did you get it to proc every 2 seconds?

  9. #29

    Nosferatuzod

    Member2010 Posts
    Adhal wrote on August 8, 2016

    Im curious if you have tried the Red Mountain set, the proc on it is pretty good. For me it is hitting for 11k on a 2 sec cd and will proc off Dots. The set up I am trying to go with is 5 Red mountain, 5 VO, and 2 Velidreth. I do not have VO or Velidreth yet though.

    Never mind, I just looked over the Live notes VS PTS, apparantly the Live version seems to have a 2 second cooldown.

  10. #30

    Adhal

    Member2 Posts

    Yeah sorry, would have got back to you sooner but wasnt able to get online. I just picked up the set last night for fairly cheap (though I have noticed prices rising). Over on the official forums there is a better break down of the set and its damage https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/283129/red-mountain-new-stam-dps-meta

  11. #31

    Nosferatuzod

    Member2010 Posts
    Adhal wrote on August 8, 2016

    Yeah sorry, would have got back to you sooner but wasnt able to get online. I just picked up the set last night for fairly cheap (though I have noticed prices rising). Over on the official forums there is a better break down of the set and its damage https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/283129/red-mountain-new-stam-dps-meta

    Yeah I saw it. I just have a hard time giving up TBS for it. I am thinking about trying this on my stamblade, but we will see. I know that this set will for sure be bad for a templar since your main spammable is Jabs.

  12. #32

    ShawtyBlaze

    Member17 Posts

    Hey bro what gear were you wearing in the dps test.  And do stamina Templars put out as much damage as the other stam classes

     

  13. #33

    Nosferatuzod

    Member2010 Posts
    ShawtyBlaze wrote on August 10, 2016

    Hey bro what gear were you wearing in the dps test. And do stamina Templars put out as much damage as the other stam classes

    In the DPS test im running 4 Alkosh 3 Agility 5 TBS and no the DPS is lower

  14. #34

    ShawtyBlaze

    Member17 Posts

    Okay thanks.

  15. #35

    RoninArekkusu

    Member9 Posts

    Thats such a PvE set you have to kill some one to get the 5 piece affect and that 3 piece is grab in pop forsure.

    Eroom

  16. #36

    pr4x

    Member8 Posts

    Hey I like the playstyle of this build but I think im missing something, because I cant get over 15k dps at solo targets.

     

    Im wearing 5 pieces twice born star (all divine), 5 pieces viper (all divine, both daggers are precise) and 2 pcs lekis (all devine, because i dont have velidreth until now). I have got 91,5% crit chance, 2,5k weapon dmg, Im at CP 192 and Im playing Khajiit. I have to admit that I dont reached level 6 in PvP so I cant use Caltrops.

     

    Anyone can give me an hint on how to get more dps?

  17. #37

    Nosferatuzod

    Member2010 Posts
    pr4x wrote on August 12, 2016

    Hey I like the playstyle of this build but I think im missing something, because I cant get over 15k dps at solo targets.

    Im wearing 5 pieces twice born star (all divine), 5 pieces viper (all divine, both daggers are precise) and 2 pcs lekis (all devine, because i dont have velidreth until now). I have got 91,5% crit chance, 2,5k weapon dmg, Im at CP192 and Im playing Khajiit. I have to admit that I dont reached level 6 in PvP so I cant use Caltrops.

    Anyone cangive me an hint on how to get more dps?

    also try

    Actually lot of it is most likely from lack of CP. How much does viper average for you? Are you medium weaving skills?

  18. #38

    pr4x

    Member8 Posts

    Viper is in average at 8k-10k per hit. Yes I'm. Well is there any way to use this build with a lack of cp. Maybe switching some skills or so then?

  19. #39

    Nosferatuzod

    Member2010 Posts
    pr4x wrote on August 12, 2016

    Viper is in average at 8k-10k per hit. Yes I’m. Well is there any way to use this build with a lack of cp. Maybe switching some skills or so then?

    To be honest I don't think so, because there isn't much else you can slot skill wise. I would have to see whether you're properly executing this rotation.

  20. #40

    pr4x

    Member8 Posts

    Well I think my weapon damage is a way to low. My jabs only hit for like 3k. You jave any advices on how to get the weapone dmg higher?

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