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Lore help needed: Skyrim towns/cities in time of ESO?

Aside from the obvious (Winterhold, Windhelm, etc) that are going to still be around in the time of ESO, does anyone know of any others?

Whiterun? Solitude? Falkreath?!

Would it even make sense if small places like Riverwood would still be around? I felt oddly attached to Riverwood, and would be somewhat disappointed if it was not in game. and Whiterun was my favorite city...

I wish there was a house IN Whiterun that you could build from scratch and furnish Hearthfire style... Breezehome feels cramped with A wife, 2 kids, and a housecarl...

 

I really want to write my ESO character's backstory... I want him to be a woodmill brat, and preferably living in Southern Skyrim (I live in south Alaska, so it feels fitting)

Is Falkreath part of Skyrim, or Cyrodil at this time? I seem to remember something about Falkreath being occupied by the Empire at some point?

 

Would wood mills ala Skyrim even be AROUND in the time of ESO? I haven't really felt like technology advances much in Elder Scrolls, so maybe? A lot of time has passed from ESO to Skyrim, but at the same time Morrowind had crossbows and everything so I actually can't think of any technology in Skyrim that for sure wasn't in past Elder Scrolls games at least lore wise...

 

Maybe ESO will provide incredibly lively and memorable towns with a lumber mill i can use... I still fondly remember the Forsaken Inn in LOTRO, and Thousand Needles in WoW... So here is hoping ESO has locations I get just as attached to as Whiterun, Riverwood, etc.

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  1. #21

    The Lady Lacrissa

    Member20 Posts
    Hordearii wrote on June 26, 2013

    Trojan.exe said on June 26, 2013:

    Dragon’s Reach was built for the purpose of capturing a dragon, last they were about, so yeah at least the palace will be there if not the city of Whiterun.

    Forgive my ignorance on Lore but don’t you mean the other way around? I thought the game was taking place before the dragons were about – thus Whiterun may well exist but the Dragon’s Reach Palace would not?

    You are kind of right. Whiterun was founded by Jeek of the River, the captain of Jorrvaskr. He discovered the Skyforge, he and his men built the great mead hall of Jorrvaskr (the future home of the companions guild) and those were the only two structures there at the time, but the city started being slowly built around it over the centuries.  So the town sprung up before the reach as you said.

    But the game is taking place after the dragons, in the second era. Dragonsreach can be traced back to the First Era, when King Olaf One-Eye defeated the dragon Numinex  in a legendary duel of Thu’ums atop Mount Anthor. King Olaf took Numinex to the starting town as a captive in the reach, which was when it was named Dragonsreach.

    But judging from what info I have found about known locations in ESO's Skyrim, there will not be a Whiterun, but it  may not be listed on any of the sites I looked on yet, it could come later as a DLC, or it is a different name in the 2nd era.

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  2. #22

    Telvanni Veros

    Member1560 Posts
    Tonsha wrote on July 1, 2013

    Gederic said on July 1, 2013:

    That is so disappointing… I was hoping they wouldn’t do all this expansion/ dlc crap…. Give us an actual complete games. If your going to do expansions at least make it something that shouldn’t be part of the original game….

    Hold back your complaints until we’ve actually played. We don’t know how large the areas are yet, or how much content they contain. I wish we had the whole of Tamriel too, but I’m withholding my full judgement on this decision by ZOS until we know how much they’re prepared for us at launch.

    Don't think about it like "They're withholding areas."

    Think about it like "Each area except Cyrodiil spans into three countries, and includes nearly the entirety of the middle country. Each player can quest through all three alliance zones on each individual character. That makes the total play area much much larger than any previous Elder Scrolls game, even withholding parts of Skyrim, Black Marsh, Summerset, and Elsweyr."

    By the way, your new avatar is great.

  3. #23

    Qoggish

    Moderator1231 Posts
    Telvanni Veros wrote on July 1, 2013

    Think about it like “Each area except Cyrodiil spans into three countries, and includes nearly the entirety of the middle country. Each player can quest through all three alliance zones on each individual character....*snip*

    Well, I said I was withholding judgement - not that they were withholding areas! :P But you're very right. It's still the largest play area we've had yet, but for an MMORPG it pretty much needs it. If I'm honest, I'm almost happy we have more areas to look forward to after launch, even if it means we have to wait for *insert time period here*. I'm sure we'll have more than enough places to roll around in once the game launches.

    And thank you, I do like it too...it's from one of my favourite pieces of fantasy art, when you minus the crop. :D I've always liked yours too..

     

  4. #24

    Vigbjorn Cold-Heart

    Member31 Posts

    I realize that Winterhold won't be in the game but I hope that through an update or dlc we get to explore this area before the Great Collapse.

    A man’s will is the will of the wind – Norse proverb

  5. #25

    Montypyth

    Member50 Posts

    I know Im a bit late, but here is what I know about Skyrim in ESO:

    1: Skyrim is split between East and West, and only the East is playable. Therefore, the towns of Solitude, Markarth, Karthwasten, Dragonbridge etc will not be in the game at launch

    2: Falkreath will either belong to Western Skyrim, or be included as part of the Colovian Highlands as it was the capital of the area during the time of ESO according to lore. Either way, it will not be playable

    3: Winterhold will not be available at launch

    4: The confirmed cities (sources: Ask us Anything Ebonheart and Biography of Jorunn) are Windhelm, Riften, Whiterun and Nimalten (probably near where Ivarstead was, according to ES: Arena maps)

    5: Skyrim will probably include some older towns from ES: Arena, although we dont know which ones. Recent cities from ES V: Skyrim such as Rorikstead should not appear, as it was a new settlement.

    To sum up: At launch, Skyrim will most likely consist of the Whiterun, Eastmarch and Rift Holds, with the capitals being Whiterun, Windhelm and Riften respectively. Any locations not in those holds will not appear at launch. Also, the cities of Rorikstead (mentioned above) and Ivarstead (likely replced by Nimalten if Arena maps are correct) will most likely not appear. The only new city to be mentioned is Nimalten, which will be in the Rift, and Bleakrock, an island northeast of Skyrim (some screenshots of it have been posted by Zenimax).

  6. #26

    Alinor

    Member472 Posts

    @Montypyth Whiterun hasn't been confirmed to appear in ESO; only the regions of Eastmarch and The Rift have been confirmed by Zenimax. It's also worth noting that the ESO map of the Ebonheart Pact playable areas has been leaked online.

  7. #27

    Sordak

    Member1725 Posts

    Whiterun has been mentioned very early in a throwaway line asking wether or not the companions will be in. The answers was somewhat unclear. it was mumbling about them not beeing joinable but connected to whiterun.

    I personaly do not think that whiterun is in. Generaly the Tundra is a bad place for MMO design cause its large and kind of emtpy (but neat looking nevertheless)

    And yeah, its not on the leaked map. So thats that.

    From what i know the playable cities are: Ebonheart, Narsis, Riften, Windhelm, Blacklight (is not seen on the map tho, might be tiny) and Stormhold.

  8. #28

    Montypyth

    Member50 Posts

    Yeah, I though Whiterun was included because of the Ask Us Anything question about the companions, but I guess it is a bit unclear. DOes anyone have a link to the leaked map?

     

  9. #29

    Alinor

    Member472 Posts

    @Sordak Blacklight is definitely on the map, although it's much lower than Windhelm and appears to be a town rather than a city.

     

    @Montypyth No one can link you to leaked material on this forum since it's against the site's rules. Sorry.

  10. #30

    Gudhreim

    Member29 Posts

    i hope it still have Riverwood on ESO, Riverwood is my favorite little sleepy village!

  11. #31

    Aesma Daeva

    Member86 Posts
    Neithrys the Skylamp wrote on June 23, 2013

    There should be these ones: Winterhold, Whiterun, Windhelm, Falkreath, Markarth, Solitude, Dawnstar, Morthal and Riften. Shor´s stone, Riverwood, Rorikstead, Kynesgrove, Helgen are so small, because they are new even in the time setting of Skyrim, so they shouldn´t be featured.

    Dragonsreach was built to hold a dragon and the dragons are dead during the time of ESO so if not Whiterun Dragonsreach should at least be there.

  12. #32

    Lord Sypherion

    Member4 Posts

    Well... all but one dragon is dead I believe... dont forget ol Parthanax on the sumit of the Throat of the World. The settlements wont be featured because they where in fact not founded until the late Third Era though I would expect to see a few Nordic ruins revived as small towns.

  13. #33

    Alinor

    Member472 Posts

    @Aesma Daeva @Lord Sypherion

    Ahbiilok, Mirmulnir, and Nahfahlaar/Nafaalilargus are also known to exist during the time of ESO. Plus, since Mirmulnir was never killed and appears in Skyrim, it makes sense that there will be other dragons alive too.

  14. #34

    Klaten

    Member341 Posts

    The smaller settlements wont be in most likely.

  15. #35

    Brazekool

    Member113 Posts
    Hordearii wrote on June 26, 2013

    Trojan.exe said on June 26, 2013:

    Dragon’s Reach was built for the purpose of capturing a dragon, last they were about, so yeah at least the palace will be there if not the city of Whiterun.

    Forgive my ignorance on Lore but don’t you mean the other way around? I thought the game was taking place before the dragons were about – thus Whiterun may well exist but the Dragon’s Reach Palace would not?

    Others seem to have cleared this up in my steed. But yes, the keep was built long ago. The 4th Era is when the dragons "return". That's why Jarl whateverhisnameis is all like "here's something I prepared earlier - a dragon harness thing built into the back of my crib"

     

    SNAKE IN THE GRASS, AS SHOULD HE BE
  16. #36

    Brazekool

    Member113 Posts
    Gudhreim wrote on July 19, 2013

    i hope it still have Riverwood on ESO, Riverwood is my favorite little sleepy village!

    It's possible that towns like Riverwood that were built as milling settlements may well exist simply as just the mill, and may be called "Riverwood Mill" like a few you do come by in Skyrim that don't have a town building, just the mills themselves. But I'm thinkin' some like DragonsBridge (I think it's called, over in west Skyrim there) could well be bigger if surrounding capitols aren't as established since it was a cultural landmark.

    SNAKE IN THE GRASS, AS SHOULD HE BE
  17. #37

    playerdestroyer

    Member81 Posts

    Yhea sure, when we talk to the locals at Drgon's Bridge, they say that the bridge was there much before the town was built. Maybe in ESO the bridge will exist, but the  town itslef im not so sure

  18. #38

    Marolas

    Member259 Posts

    I would be surprised if Whiterun isn't in the game, it is a well-established city and very popular.

    -Mart

  19. #39

    DangorNightshade

    Member78 Posts

    to clear some things up

    ZO has already said Dragons won't be appearing in ESO, Yes there a few dragons still alive during the Second era but won't appear,

    They have also said that not all Cities will be available at launch but will be added through updates and DLC an example of this is Winterhold,

    The smaller settlements like Riverwood most likely will not appear in game

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