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Gold Farmers - Good or Bad for ESO?

Gold farmers have been seen as a problem in many games. Some players hate them. However, somebody is buying gold from them with real cash or they wouldn't exist.

What do you see as the main problems with gold farmers? What recommendations do you have for the developers to control/eliminate them from ESO?

What do you like about gold farmers? Do they provide a service that is needed? Should the developers leave them be?

 

Thoughts?

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  1. #21

    lycrates

    Member305 Posts

    Here are the problems with Gold Sellers:

    1) Force Developers to trivialize Crafting (If crafters could make the best items in the game and sell them, then people would just by gold with real cash from gold seller and immediately buy the best crap in the game i.e. turn the game into a Pay to Win). In fact, ESO originally intended for crafters to make the best stuff in the game (see past interviews with Sage), somewhere along the lines that changed and its safe to assume that ZOS realized that people would just pay cash for the best stuff.

    2) Bots camping gathering sites. Gold Farmers create countless Bots to camp the best gathering sites, which prevents real players from gathering and trivializes the time real people put in gathering.

    3) Bots ruining PvP and PvE. In order to farm better, Gold Farmers create Bot macros for PvP and PvE and then sell whatever the Bots gather (or to simply improve their Bots so they can gather gold at better locations). Not all PvP and PvE Bots are a result of Gold Sellers, but a lot of them are.

    4) Market Inflation: With the market flooded with Gold from Gold Sellers, everything gets hugely inflated and basically breaks the market for normal players.

    5) Trivializes items and supplies gathered by normal players: Gold Sellers flood the  Market with items and supplies gathered by Gold Seller Bots,  that trivializes the value of hard earned items and supplies by normal players.

    6) Annoying Spam: This is the most minor yet the most cited effect that Gold Sellers have in a game. For a lot of people, spamming is the only thing that they notice because they fail to appreciate all the various ways that Gold Seller ruin MMOs.

    7) Ruin game communities: The toxicity caused by Gold Sellers definitely harms the communities in the game.

     

    Did I forget to mention anything?

  2. #22

    Enduriel

    Member105 Posts

    I think it's wrong and everything should be done to try and stop it.

  3. #23

    Master of Fate

    Member1240 Posts

    The good news is that the subscription model means accounts have to pay. Gold sellers can't necessarily just keep making new accounts after they are banned if they have to pay every time. Having said that, they will pay every time if their profits are still good enough. Thus, Zenimax has to find ways to slow that down.

  4. #24

    SpikedHalo

    Member23 Posts
    gtox wrote on November 6, 2013

    Temijin-DeathStalker said on November 6, 2013 :

    Gold farmers have been seen as a problem in many games. Some players hate them. However, somebody is buying gold from them with real cash or they wouldn’t exist.

    What do you see as the main problems with gold farmers? What recommendations do you have for the developers to control/eliminate them from ESO?

    What do you like about gold farmers? Do they provide a service that is needed? Should the developers leave them be?

    Thoughts?

    Normally I would completely agree with you, however the recent FFXIV has really made me question the validity of “someone must be buying from them or else they wouldn’t be in business”. In FFXIV there is literally no reason to ever want more of the in-game currency; it is plentiful and the things that it is used for are of very low value to the player. The items that, in other games validate a gold seller to exist, are instead bought using alternate currency that cannot be traded.

    Why then are there TONS of gold sellers spamming that game?! Sure there might be the odd person who doesn’t understand that money is of such low value and ignorantly buys from them, but surely there cannot be many who apply to that description. It seems as though the sellers are there even without good reason to be; perhaps because their overhead is practically zero and they adapt the “meh.. why not” policy.

    What do you see as the main problems with gold farmers? Inflation, chat spam, impression that it sets for new players joining the community

    What recommendations do you have for the developers to control/eliminate them from ESO? Aggressive bot elimination (this would eliminate at least half of the suppliers), and demo/trial accounts are not allowed to speak in chat or trade items to other players AT ALL, EVER (it is intended to be a demo/trial after all.. if players want to chat or trade, then buy the game), tracking player currency trade patterns over a certain #

    What do you like about gold farmers? Is this a trick question? Nothing is good about gold farmers.

    Do they provide a service that is needed? If their service is “needed”, then the game is broken.

    Should the developers leave them be? Absolutely not. They are equal to hackers and exploiters and should be addressed with the same level of punishment.

    This.  Gold farmers, RMTs, whatever you want to call them... it's a 3rd party exploit.  Kill it, kill it with fire.

  5. #25

    Temijin DeathStalker

    Member144 Posts

    Good points SpikedHalo! there are players who enjoy a game but don't have the time to grind out the coin. They do, however, have real world cash to spend. So, to buy that cool or needed item in the AH they will find the gold seller and pay his price for the gold he needs. Is it unfair to the player who does grind for himself? For pve I would say no as one players items doesn't really effect another's enjoyment of the game. For pvp I would say yes as the guy who tricked out his character through gold purchases would unfairly effect another who purchased his gear from his own efforts.

     

    So, there is a large number of players that would be inticed to use a gold seller. Doing everything possible to make the gold sellers job more difficult will keep this problem to a minimum. Some of what you suggested would be very good. However, as gold sellers need an easy way to sell their farmed items, not having a universal auction house would go the farthest in keeping them down.

  6. #26

    Ghamul

    Member27 Posts

    In my opinion gold farmers serve to support players cheating and not actually winning the game. I personally look to MMOs like ESO and others for a game that is not a pay to win game, meaning a game that I can win purely based off of skill and not be slaughtered by people who payed real money for superior items. Gold farmers are just another way to cheat the system that should be dealt with with an iron fist so to say. I hope that the developers build features in to report gold farmers and spammers specifically so that the players who actually put time into the game to earn what they have don't have to deal with the spammers and gold farmers disrupting their game experience. I think they could achieve this by utilizing strict and thorough confirmation processes for registration or let them register but you have to confirm you are a human and not a spam bot so to say before you can utilize chat.

    ”I am Ghamul the Desolator, nothing can stop me and all that tries is destroyed.”

  7. #27

    Geoffreypro

    Member2 Posts

    You need to spend a lot of time to get enough gold in ESO. Unfortunately, many people work and cannot afford it. If the problem concerns you, visit the site and buy some gold and stave off your problems. https://www.sellersandfriends.com/buy-the-elder-scrolls-online-gold

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