"The Sting" Nos Stamplar DPS Guide (Morrowind DLC ready)

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    Nosferatuzod

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    EDITS:

    5/23/2017 – Updated for Morrowind DLC

    5/28/2017 – Updated Rotation

    5/31/2017 – Updated rotation and added alternate gear options

    6/01/2017 – Added a rotation video

    6/12/2017 – Added a 6 mil dummy parse

    Race:

    Redguard

    Attributes:

    All in Stamina

    Food:

    Health and Stamina

    Mundus:

    Thief

    Champion Point Distribution:

    Blue tree:

    Master at Arms – 18, Thaumaturge – 66, Precise Strikes – 56, Piercing  – 14, Mighty – 56.

    Red tree:

    Trial dependent

    Green tree:

    Max out Tenacity and Regen and put the rest in Tumbling.

    Gear choice (Option 1):

    7/7 Medium

    5 Twice Fanged Serpent

    2 Kragh

    3 Vicious Ophidian Jewelry

    1 Sharpened VO Dagger

    1 Infused VO Dagger (Main Bar)

    1 Sharpened vMA Bow

    5 Armor pieces with Stamina Enchants. All Jewelry Robust with Weapon damage enchants.

    Gear choice (Option 2):

    7/7 Medium

    5 Twice Fanged Serpent

    2 Kragh

    3 Nightmother’s Gaze armor

    1 Precise Dagger (Weapon damage enchant) (Offbar)

    1 Infused Dagger (Poison enchant) (main bar)

    1 Sharpened vMA Bow

    5 Armor pieces with Stamina Enchants. All Jewelry Robust with Weapon damage enchants.

    Bar Setup:

    Main Bar (Dual Wield): Repentance (or Vigor), Rending Slashes, Rearming Trap, Biting Jabs, Power of the Light. Ultimate – Rend

    Offbar (Bow): Vigor, Caltrops, Flex Spot, Endless Hail, Poison Injection. Ultimate – Crescent Sweep

    Rotation:

    Step 1: LA (Skip on the initial rotation)>Rearming Trap>Bar Swap>LA (Skip on the initial rotation)>Endless Hail>LA>Poison Injection(Don’t use this skill above 50% health)>LA>Caltrops>Bar Swap animation cancel

    Step 2: Heavy Attack>Rending Slashes>LA>Power of the Light>LA>Jabs>LA>Jabs>LA>Jabs>LA>Power of the Light

    Restart from Step 1 (When Rend is up, apply it in the middle of jabs)

    Questions:

    1. Why Kragh? 

    Kragh offers the highest damage gain in groups where full target penetration is not achieved. The 1 piece on it is the strongest 1 piece for a stam user to have and offers a whopping 3.8% DPS increase on a non fully penetrated target. In addition its damage is quiet good as well.

    2. Twice Fanged Serpent?

    Twice Fanged Serpent is the highest DPS gain of all stamina sets, provided you benefit from the full extent of its penetration.

    3. Why double dagger?

    Because the chance to proc the axe bleed is so low it isn’t worth it to run it. The only things capable of proccing bleeds are your Light Weaves and Rending Slashes.

    4. Why Crescent Sweep?

    Crescent Sweep was buffed and does amazing damage! The combination of cheap ult and the piercing spear passive on our back bar with high damage and the ability to retain Flawless on our front bar allows for great results (only for builds using War Machine).

    5. Why Nightmothers?

    The DPS is marginally better with Nightmothers versus VO, however you have less sustain. in trials however between orbs and repentance that wont be an issue. I suggest running VO for trash and for fights where there arre no other stam toons and running NMG for boss fights where other stam users are present.

    6. Why Poison injection only below 50%?

    Because our rotation takes over 10 seconds to complete, so you inadvertantly lose ticks on skills that hit really hard such as endless hail. The options before us are to take out one Jab, but that would result in a severe dps loss, or instead take out a skill that does not do much damage before 50%. I chose to do just that.

    7. Parses

     https://imgur.com/gallery/deZ7F

    http://imgur.com/a/UQX2E

    8. Rotation video

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO4a3YDKKB0&feature=youtu.be – 3 mil

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LanVPa4RdYg&feature=youtu.be – 6 mil

    Experimental Setup coming soon, but must be tested…

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    RaHimself

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    Nice to see people still playing Stamplar, making my Khajiit stam again. Would be nice for some screenshots though of dps tests and character sheet

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    kwin

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    from my experience Alkosh items simply does not exist…

    what do you think will be a good replacement to alkosh 4 PC in you single target build?
    maybe vicious ophidian 4PC?
    or is it better to use monster set + maelstrom dagger and change potl by rapid strike to empower Rending Slashes, trap and poison injection ?

    I was about to test alcast stamplar build, but I am on PS4 so thaumaturge is still bugged so I am currently enjoying other classes for the moment…

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    Nosferatuzod

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    RaHimself said on June 23, 2016 :

    Nice to see people still playing Stamplar, making my Khajiit stam again. Would be nice for some screenshots though of dps tests and character sheet

    Sure no problem, I can get you an unbuffed bloodspawn

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    Nosferatuzod

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    kwin said on June 23, 2016 :

    from my experience Alkosh items simply does not exist…

    what do you think will be a good replacement to alkosh 4 PC in you single target build?
    maybe vicious ophidian 4PC?
    or is it better to usemonster set+ maelstrom dagger and change potl by rapid strike to empower Rending Slashes, trap and poison injection ?

    I was about to test alcast stamplar build, but I am on PS4 so thaumaturge is still bugged so I am currently enjoying other classes for the moment…

    If you dont have Alkosh, you can run 2 Agility and 5 Viper, that really sucks about Thaum though.

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    kwin

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    you mean 2 hundings + 5 viper + 2 maelstrom dagger and change a bit the rotation… or keep the rotation as it is and changing to 5 viper + 4 hunding?

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    Nosferatuzod

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    I prefer Jabs on my templar, so vMA weapons are useless to us in my opinion. I would usethe following Setup if I didn’t have Alkosh:

    5 Viper 5 Nightmothers/TBS 2 Mephala if using this setup you will have to add a fully charged heavy when you swap to dual wield bar.

     

     

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    DavidTheNomad

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    If you run with a healer using twilight remedy, is it worth dropping trap in favor of another dot? If so, which would you pick?

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    DavidTheNomad said on June 23, 2016 :

    If you run with a healer using twilight remedy, is it worth dropping trap in favor of another dot?If so, which would you pick?

    As a stamina user it is never worth it to drop trap, since it is one of the highest DoT’s available to you.

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    G1ovanni

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    Ive got 3 jewellery from the vicious ophidian, but no Alkosh and no vMA weapons, dont know how to set up my stamplar.

    how do you buff up yourself? Pots? Is there another option?

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    Nosferatuzod

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    G1ovanni said on July 18, 2016 :

    Ive got 3 jewellery from the vicious ophidian, but no Alkosh and no vMA weapons, dont know how to set up my stamplar.

    how do youbuff up yourself? Pots? Is there another option?

    Hey, no need for vMA weapons for stamplars. You can run 5VO, 5 TBS, 2 Leki. Since you got the jewelry, the body pieces should be easier to get. I use potions on cooldown.

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    G1ovanni

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    Thx for reply. No other Chance to buff without potions? Expensive AF

    dreughking jewellery and weapons plus VO/leki in body?

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    Nosferatuzod

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    G1ovanni said on July 18, 2016 :

    Thx for reply. No other Chance to buff without potions? Expensive AF

    dreughking jewellery and weapons plus VO/leki in body?

    I guess you could, tbh if you run vSO that jewelry sells well so you can definitely make up all the lost money

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    jombbi

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    @Nosfeatuzod – I have the VO jwelery but not the daggers. Actually have never seen them. My original thought was to use 5VO-5TBS- 2 Skoria/Mephala/Kena but the problem is without VO weapons if you use TBS 3 on body and 2 weapons with VO 2 on body and 3 jewelery, won’t the weapon swap reset the mundus buff?

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    jombbi said on August 1, 2016 :

    @Nosfeatuzod – I have the VO jwelery but not the daggers. Actually have never seen them. My original thought was to use 5VO-5TBS- 2 Skoria/Mephala/Kena but the problem is without VO weapons if you use TBS 3 on body and 2 weapons with VO 2 on body and 3 jewelery, won’t the weapon swap reset the mundus buff?

    It would, whihc is why you need VO daggers. Tthey are pretty rare, because they only drop in two instances – Normal Sanctum ophidia, or Veteran Sanctum Ophidia (non-hard mode). With the addition of trading into trials it should be significantly easier to procure these items.

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    jombbi

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    Hmmm…well I guess till then I’ll use some other dagger prob leki and make me TBS for body and keep looking for those daggers. However the tough part is I only do vSO. Probably have to start farming normal then. I guess they only drop from last boss?

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    jombbi said on August 1, 2016 :

    Hmmm…well I guess till then I’ll use some other dagger prob leki and make me TBS for body and keep looking for those daggers. However the tough part is I only do vSO. Probably have to start farming normal then. I guess they only drop from last boss?

    Yeah…what im going to do is run nSO and pay 100k per dagger…I should get em quick…

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    jombbi

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    any luck so far with those daggers….

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    Nosferatuzod

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    jombbi said on August 3, 2016 :

    any luck so far with those daggers….

    Not yet, I’ve been farming cradle of Shadows, but I learned that the weapons drop from vet AA and vet HRC (any boss) so no nSO farming for me.

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