"The Sting" Nos Stamplar DPS Guide (HotR DLC ready)

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    Nosferatuzod

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    EDITS:

    08/18/17  – Updated for Horns of the Reach DLC

    Race:

    Redguard

    Attributes:

    All in Stamina

    Food:

    Health and Stamina

    Mundus:

    Warrior

    Champion Point Distribution:

    Blue tree:

    Master at Arms 20, Mighty 49, Precise Strikes 40, Thaumaturge 56, Piercing 55

    Red tree:

    Quick Recovery 19, Elemental Defender 49, Hardy 49, Thick Skinned 37, Iron Clad 44, Spell Shield 22

    Green tree:

    Warlord 51, Sprinter 16, Mooncalf 56, Tenacity 49, Tumbling 28, Shadow Ward 20

    Gear choice (Solo Stam DPS in Raid):

    7/7 Medium Divines

    5 Twice Fanged Serpent

    2 Velidreth

    5 Night Mother’s Gaze

    Use the following weapon traits:

    1 Infused Dagger (Poison enchant) – in Main Hand

    1 Precise Dagger (Weapon damage enchant) – in Off-Hand

    1 Nirn vMA Bow

    All Armor with Stamina Enchants. All Jewelry Robust with Weapon damage enchants.

    Bar Setup

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    Rotation:

    Step 1: LA>Rearming Trap>LA>Endless Hail>LA>Crescent Sweep>LA>Poison Injection>LA>Razor Caltrops>Bar Swap (animation cancel)

    Step 2: LA>Rending Slashes>LA>Power of the Light>HA>Deadly Cloak>HA>Biting Jabs>HA>Biting Jabs>LA>Power of the Light>Bar Swap

    Rinse and repeat. On the initial pass don’t use LA before trap or Hail. Apply Crescent Sweep as soon as you swap to your back bar, that skill has a priority cast.

    Rotation Video

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Hrn7-v5_qA&feature=youtu.be

    Questions:

    1. Why Velidreth?

    Kragh offers the highest damage gain in groups where full target penetration is not achieved, because the 1 piece on it is the strongest one-piece for a stam user to have and offers a 2.97% DPS increase on a non fully penetrated target. Velidreth however works best if full penetration is achieved. In addition its proc hits certain enemies (Manticora is an example) multiple times. My raid group will be running an optimized buff system so I am running Velidreth…if there are no penetration cap then Kragh is bets in slot for most fights.

    2. Why TFS and NMG?

    Penetration is the best damage buffing stat to use when building a character. In a non optimized raid those two sets will perform best. Should your group already run NMG your options open up quite a bit, but are all reliant on what gear is available to you. Vicious Ophidian, Hundings Rage and Sunderflame are all viable options, the trick is to be aware of how to optimize and not go over the penetration cap. Below is a list of all the possible debuffs a group can have up, keep in mind that during a trial you most likely will not have a 100% uptime on every single of these, so try to pen cap yourself with that expectation.

    Nightmother’s Gaze – 2580

    Alkosh – 3010

    Sunderflame – 3440

    Major Fracture – 5280

    Minor Fracture – 1320

    Crusher Enchant – 1622

    Infused Crusher Enchant – 2108

    3. Why Warrior Mundus?

    Warrior seems to be coming out on top for most stam builds in this DLC. By slotting Dawnbreaker on the front bar we are getting around 559 weapon damage from that Mundus, which is quite a large chunk of our dps. Our crit is too high to take advantage of the Thief stone and too low to make Shadow Mundus be better than Warrior. Lover is a choice to run, but the DPS gain from warrior is almost exactly the same and if you have buff sets in a raid Lover quickly loses its power.

    4. Why double dagger?

    Proc rate for the Axe passive is too low to warrant using it, and daggers scale better with raid buffs.

    5. Why Nirn Bow?

    Since we are shooting for a pen capped scenario we have infused/nirn and precise to choose from. Precise is nice but Nirn is a lot better. Nirn not only increases the base of your Hail damage, it also buffs your weapon by 200 wep damage which is huge for all your skills. Running Nirn allows your hail to start ticking and go through the lower part of its damage buffed, once you bar swap, the Infused trait off the main hand takes over and gives your Hail a higher ceiling to reach.

    6. Why Crescent Sweep and not Rend?

    Rend outparses Crescent Sweep, however the loss of Flawless on the front bar is a much bigger DPS loss. Especially when combined with the Warrior Mundus, Flawless front bar becomes a must. Additionally its a cheap AoE ult, which means that 1. You help kill adds. 2. You have better sustain because it saves you a global cooldown every other bar swap. 3. If your group penetration is optimized, a Stamplar running NMG(or Hundings) with War Machine would benefit the group a lot!

    7. Parses

    http://imgur.com/a/2zMPr

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttX_N7vd2UE&feature=youtu.be

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    RaHimself

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    Nice to see people still playing Stamplar, making my Khajiit stam again. Would be nice for some screenshots though of dps tests and character sheet

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    kwin

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    from my experience Alkosh items simply does not exist…

    what do you think will be a good replacement to alkosh 4 PC in you single target build?
    maybe vicious ophidian 4PC?
    or is it better to use monster set + maelstrom dagger and change potl by rapid strike to empower Rending Slashes, trap and poison injection ?

    I was about to test alcast stamplar build, but I am on PS4 so thaumaturge is still bugged so I am currently enjoying other classes for the moment…

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    Nosferatuzod

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    RaHimself said on June 23, 2016 :

    Nice to see people still playing Stamplar, making my Khajiit stam again. Would be nice for some screenshots though of dps tests and character sheet

    Sure no problem, I can get you an unbuffed bloodspawn

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    Nosferatuzod

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    kwin said on June 23, 2016 :

    from my experience Alkosh items simply does not exist…

    what do you think will be a good replacement to alkosh 4 PC in you single target build?
    maybe vicious ophidian 4PC?
    or is it better to usemonster set+ maelstrom dagger and change potl by rapid strike to empower Rending Slashes, trap and poison injection ?

    I was about to test alcast stamplar build, but I am on PS4 so thaumaturge is still bugged so I am currently enjoying other classes for the moment…

    If you dont have Alkosh, you can run 2 Agility and 5 Viper, that really sucks about Thaum though.

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    kwin

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    you mean 2 hundings + 5 viper + 2 maelstrom dagger and change a bit the rotation… or keep the rotation as it is and changing to 5 viper + 4 hunding?

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    Nosferatuzod

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    I prefer Jabs on my templar, so vMA weapons are useless to us in my opinion. I would usethe following Setup if I didn’t have Alkosh:

    5 Viper 5 Nightmothers/TBS 2 Mephala if using this setup you will have to add a fully charged heavy when you swap to dual wield bar.

     

     

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    DavidTheNomad

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    Breton Templar

    If you run with a healer using twilight remedy, is it worth dropping trap in favor of another dot? If so, which would you pick?

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    Nosferatuzod

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    DavidTheNomad said on June 23, 2016 :

    If you run with a healer using twilight remedy, is it worth dropping trap in favor of another dot?If so, which would you pick?

    As a stamina user it is never worth it to drop trap, since it is one of the highest DoT’s available to you.

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    G1ovanni

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    Ive got 3 jewellery from the vicious ophidian, but no Alkosh and no vMA weapons, dont know how to set up my stamplar.

    how do you buff up yourself? Pots? Is there another option?

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    Nosferatuzod

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    G1ovanni said on July 18, 2016 :

    Ive got 3 jewellery from the vicious ophidian, but no Alkosh and no vMA weapons, dont know how to set up my stamplar.

    how do youbuff up yourself? Pots? Is there another option?

    Hey, no need for vMA weapons for stamplars. You can run 5VO, 5 TBS, 2 Leki. Since you got the jewelry, the body pieces should be easier to get. I use potions on cooldown.

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    G1ovanni

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    Thx for reply. No other Chance to buff without potions? Expensive AF

    dreughking jewellery and weapons plus VO/leki in body?

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    Nosferatuzod

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    G1ovanni said on July 18, 2016 :

    Thx for reply. No other Chance to buff without potions? Expensive AF

    dreughking jewellery and weapons plus VO/leki in body?

    I guess you could, tbh if you run vSO that jewelry sells well so you can definitely make up all the lost money

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    jombbi

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    Redguard Templar

    @Nosfeatuzod – I have the VO jwelery but not the daggers. Actually have never seen them. My original thought was to use 5VO-5TBS- 2 Skoria/Mephala/Kena but the problem is without VO weapons if you use TBS 3 on body and 2 weapons with VO 2 on body and 3 jewelery, won’t the weapon swap reset the mundus buff?

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    Nosferatuzod

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    jombbi said on August 1, 2016 :

    @Nosfeatuzod – I have the VO jwelery but not the daggers. Actually have never seen them. My original thought was to use 5VO-5TBS- 2 Skoria/Mephala/Kena but the problem is without VO weapons if you use TBS 3 on body and 2 weapons with VO 2 on body and 3 jewelery, won’t the weapon swap reset the mundus buff?

    It would, whihc is why you need VO daggers. Tthey are pretty rare, because they only drop in two instances – Normal Sanctum ophidia, or Veteran Sanctum Ophidia (non-hard mode). With the addition of trading into trials it should be significantly easier to procure these items.

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    jombbi

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    Hmmm…well I guess till then I’ll use some other dagger prob leki and make me TBS for body and keep looking for those daggers. However the tough part is I only do vSO. Probably have to start farming normal then. I guess they only drop from last boss?

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    Nosferatuzod

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    jombbi said on August 1, 2016 :

    Hmmm…well I guess till then I’ll use some other dagger prob leki and make me TBS for body and keep looking for those daggers. However the tough part is I only do vSO. Probably have to start farming normal then. I guess they only drop from last boss?

    Yeah…what im going to do is run nSO and pay 100k per dagger…I should get em quick…

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    jombbi

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    any luck so far with those daggers….

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    Nosferatuzod

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    jombbi said on August 3, 2016 :

    any luck so far with those daggers….

    Not yet, I’ve been farming cradle of Shadows, but I learned that the weapons drop from vet AA and vet HRC (any boss) so no nSO farming for me.

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