"The Sting" Nos/Fire's Stamplar DPS Guide (Update 12 ready)

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    Nosferatuzod

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    Khajiit Templar

    This guide has been brought to you by Fire and Nos of From the Dust.

    EDITS:

    6/19/2016 – Updated rotation and CP setup

    7/15/2016 – Updated for Shadows of the Hist DLC

    8/06/2016 – Slightly modified rotation

    9/03/2016 – Update Rotation/Sets courtesy of @rokrdt05

    9/27/2016 – Updated for Update 12

     

    Race:

    1). Redguard

    2). Khajit

    Both options are viable. While the highest damage output race for this build is a Khajit, Redguard offers superior sustain allowing us to deal more damage via monster sets and rely less on shards.

    Attributes:

    All in Stamina

    Food:

    Health and Stamina

    Mundus:

    Thief and Shadow

    Champion Point Distribution:

    Blue tree:

    Mighty – 100; Thaum – 35; Precise Strikes – 52,

    Red tree:

    Points evenly across Hardy, Thick Skinned and Elemental Defender

    Green tree:

    100 into reduced cost, the rest into regen.

    Gear choice:

    7/7 Medium

    5 Nightmothers/TBS

    2 Velidreth/Kragh

    3 Vicious Ophidian Jewelry

    2 Sharpened vMA Daggers

    1 Sharpened vMA Bow

    All Armor with Stamina Enchants. All Jewelry Robust with Weapon damage enchants.

    Bar Setup:

    Main Bar (Dual Wield): Rearming Trap, Rending Slashes, Rapid Strikes, Biting Jabs, Steel Tornado. Ultimate – Thrive on Chaos

    Offbar (Bow): Power of the Light, Caltrops, Repentence, Endless Hail, Poison Injection. Ultimate – Flawless Dawnbreaker.

    Rotation:

    Potion

    Step 1: Power of the Light>Bar Swap>Rearming Trap>Bar Swap

    Step 2A: Endless Hail>Caltrops>Poison Injection>Bar Swap

    Step 2B: Endless Hail>Poison Injection>Power of the Light>Bar Swap animation cancel

    Step 3: Rapid Strikes>Medium Weave>Rending Slashes>Medium Weave>Rapid Strike>Medium Weave>Thrive on Chaos>Medium Weave>Jabs+ Medium Weave x 2>Rapid Strikes>Medium Weave>Rearming Trap>Bar Swap

    Restart from Step 2B and reapply caltrops every 3rd bar swap, prior to Poison Injection

    Reasoning:

    Stamplar Jabs is an AoE skills that also has Burning Light as an added damage component as well as the Piercing Spear passive, therefore it is impossible to not use this skill. The Empower buff from VMA weapons works on Rearming Trap, Poison Injection, Thrive on Chaos and Rending Slashes, thus making it really powerful. With the rotation provided above we get the best of both worlds.

    Questions:

    1. Why Velidreth?

    Highest DPS gain for a stam user that is possible on a two piece set. Can crit up to 32k+ with full raid buffs. Use this 2 piece if you have full target penetration (can only happen on boss fights with debuffs such as in Nightmothers, Sunderflame, ETC…)

    2. Why Kragh? 

    Kragh offers the highest damage gain in groups where full target penetration is not achieved. The 1 piece on it is the strongest 1 piece for a stam user to have and offers a whopping 3.8% DPS increase on a non fully penetrated target. In addition its damage is quiet good as well.

    3. Why Nightmothers?

    Nightmothers is less dps than TBS, but the user running Nightmothers in the raid gets to run caltrops, which is a huge DPS boost for us more than making up for the loss of TBS.

    4. Why reapply trap before it runs out?

    Because the minor force plus the increased damage from its buffed DoT is a huge DPS loss if we lose seconds on them both.

    5. Why double dagger?

    Because the chance to proc the axe bleed is so low it isn’t worth it to run it. The only things capable of proccing bleeds are your Medium weaves, Rapid Strikes and rending slashes.

    6. Why Thrive on Chaos?

    The new dual wield ultimate by itself does high AoE damage and can be empowered by vMA weapons. It also heals the user and leaves a 8 second DoT which can proc monster helm effects, thus synergizing well with our setups. But here is the most important kicker – it increases the damage of all of our abilities by 5% for each target hit up to 30%. So in essence it serves as a mini DK banner. This is a MUST HAVE.

    7. Parses

    http://imgur.com/a/Rhzt4

     http://imgur.com/a/mmsVP

    http://imgur.com/a/65eur

    http://imgur.com/a/h9i2j

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    RaHimself

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    Nice to see people still playing Stamplar, making my Khajiit stam again. Would be nice for some screenshots though of dps tests and character sheet

    - @Ra_Himself

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    kwin

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    from my experience Alkosh items simply does not exist…

    what do you think will be a good replacement to alkosh 4 PC in you single target build?
    maybe vicious ophidian 4PC?
    or is it better to use monster set + maelstrom dagger and change potl by rapid strike to empower Rending Slashes, trap and poison injection ?

    I was about to test alcast stamplar build, but I am on PS4 so thaumaturge is still bugged so I am currently enjoying other classes for the moment…

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    Nosferatuzod

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    RaHimself said on June 23, 2016 :

    Nice to see people still playing Stamplar, making my Khajiit stam again. Would be nice for some screenshots though of dps tests and character sheet

    Sure no problem, I can get you an unbuffed bloodspawn

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    Nosferatuzod

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    kwin said on June 23, 2016 :

    from my experience Alkosh items simply does not exist…

    what do you think will be a good replacement to alkosh 4 PC in you single target build?
    maybe vicious ophidian 4PC?
    or is it better to usemonster set+ maelstrom dagger and change potl by rapid strike to empower Rending Slashes, trap and poison injection ?

    I was about to test alcast stamplar build, but I am on PS4 so thaumaturge is still bugged so I am currently enjoying other classes for the moment…

    If you dont have Alkosh, you can run 2 Agility and 5 Viper, that really sucks about Thaum though.

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    kwin

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    you mean 2 hundings + 5 viper + 2 maelstrom dagger and change a bit the rotation… or keep the rotation as it is and changing to 5 viper + 4 hunding?

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    Nosferatuzod

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    I prefer Jabs on my templar, so vMA weapons are useless to us in my opinion. I would usethe following Setup if I didn’t have Alkosh:

    5 Viper 5 Nightmothers/TBS 2 Mephala if using this setup you will have to add a fully charged heavy when you swap to dual wield bar.

     

     

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    DavidTheNomad

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    Breton Templar

    If you run with a healer using twilight remedy, is it worth dropping trap in favor of another dot? If so, which would you pick?

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    Nosferatuzod

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    DavidTheNomad said on June 23, 2016 :

    If you run with a healer using twilight remedy, is it worth dropping trap in favor of another dot?If so, which would you pick?

    As a stamina user it is never worth it to drop trap, since it is one of the highest DoT’s available to you.

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    Updated for Shadows of the Hist DLC

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    G1ovanni

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    Ive got 3 jewellery from the vicious ophidian, but no Alkosh and no vMA weapons, dont know how to set up my stamplar.

    how do you buff up yourself? Pots? Is there another option?

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    Nosferatuzod

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    G1ovanni said on July 18, 2016 :

    Ive got 3 jewellery from the vicious ophidian, but no Alkosh and no vMA weapons, dont know how to set up my stamplar.

    how do youbuff up yourself? Pots? Is there another option?

    Hey, no need for vMA weapons for stamplars. You can run 5VO, 5 TBS, 2 Leki. Since you got the jewelry, the body pieces should be easier to get. I use potions on cooldown.

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    G1ovanni

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    Thx for reply. No other Chance to buff without potions? Expensive AF

    dreughking jewellery and weapons plus VO/leki in body?

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    Nosferatuzod

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    G1ovanni said on July 18, 2016 :

    Thx for reply. No other Chance to buff without potions? Expensive AF

    dreughking jewellery and weapons plus VO/leki in body?

    I guess you could, tbh if you run vSO that jewelry sells well so you can definitely make up all the lost money

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    jombbi

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    Breton Templar

    @Nosfeatuzod – I have the VO jwelery but not the daggers. Actually have never seen them. My original thought was to use 5VO-5TBS- 2 Skoria/Mephala/Kena but the problem is without VO weapons if you use TBS 3 on body and 2 weapons with VO 2 on body and 3 jewelery, won’t the weapon swap reset the mundus buff?

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    jombbi said on August 1, 2016 :

    @Nosfeatuzod – I have the VO jwelery but not the daggers. Actually have never seen them. My original thought was to use 5VO-5TBS- 2 Skoria/Mephala/Kena but the problem is without VO weapons if you use TBS 3 on body and 2 weapons with VO 2 on body and 3 jewelery, won’t the weapon swap reset the mundus buff?

    It would, whihc is why you need VO daggers. Tthey are pretty rare, because they only drop in two instances – Normal Sanctum ophidia, or Veteran Sanctum Ophidia (non-hard mode). With the addition of trading into trials it should be significantly easier to procure these items.

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    jombbi

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    Hmmm…well I guess till then I’ll use some other dagger prob leki and make me TBS for body and keep looking for those daggers. However the tough part is I only do vSO. Probably have to start farming normal then. I guess they only drop from last boss?

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    Nosferatuzod

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    jombbi said on August 1, 2016 :

    Hmmm…well I guess till then I’ll use some other dagger prob leki and make me TBS for body and keep looking for those daggers. However the tough part is I only do vSO. Probably have to start farming normal then. I guess they only drop from last boss?

    Yeah…what im going to do is run nSO and pay 100k per dagger…I should get em quick…

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    jombbi

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    Breton Templar

    any luck so far with those daggers….

    Holy DOPE- V16 High Elf Magblade- DC-EU

    sneaky PAWS- V3- Khajit Stamblade- DC-EU (Previous Emperor)

    Brock- Lee- V16- Dunmer DK- DC-EU

    Sam S’tone- V16 Breton Templar- DC- EU

    J’acob- V16 Orc DK- DC-EU 

    sam S’tone- V16 High Elf Sorc – AD- EU

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    Nosferatuzod

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    jombbi said on August 3, 2016 :

    any luck so far with those daggers….

    Not yet, I’ve been farming cradle of Shadows, but I learned that the weapons drop from vet AA and vet HRC (any boss) so no nSO farming for me.

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