"The Sting" Nos/Fire's Stamplar DPS Guide (Homestead DLC ready)

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    Nosferatuzod

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    Khajiit Templar

    This guide has been brought to you by Fire and Nos of From the Dust.

    EDITS:

    2/10/2017 – Updated for Homestead DLC

    3/17/2017 – Changed back bar ulti thanks to a suggestion by @usmcjdking

    Race:

    1). Redguard

    2). Khajit

    Both options are viable. While the highest damage output race for this build is a Khajit, Redguard offers superior sustain allowing us to deal more damage via monster sets and rely less on shards.

    Attributes:

    All in Stamina

    Food:

    Health and Stamina

    Mundus:

    Thief

    or

    Thief and Shadow

    Champion Point Distribution:

    Blue tree:

    Mighty – 96; Thaum – 75; Precise Strikes – 29

    Red tree:

    Points evenly across Hardy, Thick Skinned and Elemental Defender

    Green tree:

    100 into reduced cost, the rest into regen.

    Gear choice:

    7/7 Medium

    5 Twice Fanged Serpent/TBS

    2 Velidreth/Kragh

    3 Vicious Ophidian Jewelry

    2 Sharpened (or Precise with Full Pen) vMA Daggers

    1 Sharpened (or Precise with Full Pen) vMA Bow

    All Armor with Stamina Enchants. All Jewelry Robust with Weapon damage enchants.

    Bar Setup:

    Main Bar (Dual Wield): Repentance (or Vigor), Rending Slashes, Rapid Strikes, Biting Jabs, Steel Tornado. Ultimate – Flawless Dawnbreaker

    Offbar (Bow): Power of the Light, Caltrops, Rearming Trap, Endless Hail, Poison Injection. Ultimate – Crescent Sweep (Ballista for best single target)

    Rotation:

    Potion

    Step 1: Rearming Trap>Crescent Sweep>Endless Hail>Poison Injection>Power of the Light>(If using Ballista drop it here)>Bar Swap animation cancel

    Step 2: Rapid Strikes>LA>Rending Slashes>LA>Jabs+ LA x 2>Rapid Strikes>LA>Bar Swap

    Restart from Step 1 and reapply Caltrops every 3rd bar swap

    Reasoning:

    Stamplar Jabs is an AoE skills that also has Burning Light as an added damage component as well as the Piercing Spear passive, therefore it is impossible to not use this skill. The Empower buff from VMA weapons works on Rearming Trap, Poison Injection and Rending Slashes, thus making it really powerful. With the rotation provided above we get the best of both worlds.

    Questions:

    1. Why Velidreth?

    Highest DPS gain for a stam user that is possible on a two piece set. It cant crit anymore, but the damage is still nice. Use this 2 piece if you have full target penetration.

    2. Why Kragh? 

    Kragh offers the highest damage gain in groups where full target penetration is not achieved. The 1 piece on it is the strongest 1 piece for a stam user to have and offers a whopping 3.8% DPS increase on a non fully penetrated target. In addition its damage is quiet good as well.

    3. Twice Fanged Serpent or TBS?

    Twice Fanged Serpent is the highest DPS gain of all three sets, provided you benefit from the full extent of its penetration. If full penetration is achieved, TBS is better.

    4. Why are we still using TBS after Major Force nerf?

    Because we still you vMA weapons. vMA weapons are the main reason why TBS is so good. TBS increase damage by a set %, versus sets like Hundings that give weapon damage which is a set value.

    5. Why reapply trap before it runs out?

    Because the minor force plus the increased damage from its buffed DoT is a huge DPS loss if we lose seconds on them both.

    6. Why double dagger?

    Because the chance to proc the axe bleed is so low it isn’t worth it to run it. The only things capable of proccing bleeds are your Medium weaves, Rapid Strikes and rending slashes.

    7. Why Crescent Sweep?

    Crescent Sweep was buffed in this patch and does amazing damage! The combination of cheap ult and the piercing spear passive on our back bar with high damage and the ability to retain Flawless on our front bar allows for great results. Ballista does slightly more DPS but not a whole lot. Crescent sweep is preferable if you want the best parse, but Ballista can do slightly more DPS.

    8. Which gear should I wear?

    When figuring out the best gear to wear, look at the total penetration in the raid. Boss and add resistance is around 18200. The possible debuffs you can have in raid are as follows:

    Base – 100

    Major Fracture – 5280

    Minor Fracture – 1320

    Infused Crusher – 1944

    Kragh – 1900

    Sunderflame – 3440

    Nightmother’s gaze – 2580

    Alkosh – 3010

    Sharpened – 5160 or 2580 per weapon

    Twice Fang Serpent – 5000

    Total Penetration – nearly 30k

    This means that depending on what the raid is running you should be able to compensate.

    9. Parses

    http://imgur.com/a/1qryS

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    RaHimself

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    Nice to see people still playing Stamplar, making my Khajiit stam again. Would be nice for some screenshots though of dps tests and character sheet

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    kwin

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    from my experience Alkosh items simply does not exist…

    what do you think will be a good replacement to alkosh 4 PC in you single target build?
    maybe vicious ophidian 4PC?
    or is it better to use monster set + maelstrom dagger and change potl by rapid strike to empower Rending Slashes, trap and poison injection ?

    I was about to test alcast stamplar build, but I am on PS4 so thaumaturge is still bugged so I am currently enjoying other classes for the moment…

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    Nosferatuzod

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    RaHimself said on June 23, 2016 :

    Nice to see people still playing Stamplar, making my Khajiit stam again. Would be nice for some screenshots though of dps tests and character sheet

    Sure no problem, I can get you an unbuffed bloodspawn

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    Nosferatuzod

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    kwin said on June 23, 2016 :

    from my experience Alkosh items simply does not exist…

    what do you think will be a good replacement to alkosh 4 PC in you single target build?
    maybe vicious ophidian 4PC?
    or is it better to usemonster set+ maelstrom dagger and change potl by rapid strike to empower Rending Slashes, trap and poison injection ?

    I was about to test alcast stamplar build, but I am on PS4 so thaumaturge is still bugged so I am currently enjoying other classes for the moment…

    If you dont have Alkosh, you can run 2 Agility and 5 Viper, that really sucks about Thaum though.

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    kwin

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    you mean 2 hundings + 5 viper + 2 maelstrom dagger and change a bit the rotation… or keep the rotation as it is and changing to 5 viper + 4 hunding?

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    Nosferatuzod

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    I prefer Jabs on my templar, so vMA weapons are useless to us in my opinion. I would usethe following Setup if I didn’t have Alkosh:

    5 Viper 5 Nightmothers/TBS 2 Mephala if using this setup you will have to add a fully charged heavy when you swap to dual wield bar.

     

     

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    DavidTheNomad

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    If you run with a healer using twilight remedy, is it worth dropping trap in favor of another dot? If so, which would you pick?

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    Nosferatuzod

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    DavidTheNomad said on June 23, 2016 :

    If you run with a healer using twilight remedy, is it worth dropping trap in favor of another dot?If so, which would you pick?

    As a stamina user it is never worth it to drop trap, since it is one of the highest DoT’s available to you.

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    G1ovanni

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    Ive got 3 jewellery from the vicious ophidian, but no Alkosh and no vMA weapons, dont know how to set up my stamplar.

    how do you buff up yourself? Pots? Is there another option?

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    Nosferatuzod

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    G1ovanni said on July 18, 2016 :

    Ive got 3 jewellery from the vicious ophidian, but no Alkosh and no vMA weapons, dont know how to set up my stamplar.

    how do youbuff up yourself? Pots? Is there another option?

    Hey, no need for vMA weapons for stamplars. You can run 5VO, 5 TBS, 2 Leki. Since you got the jewelry, the body pieces should be easier to get. I use potions on cooldown.

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    G1ovanni

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    Thx for reply. No other Chance to buff without potions? Expensive AF

    dreughking jewellery and weapons plus VO/leki in body?

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    Nosferatuzod

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    G1ovanni said on July 18, 2016 :

    Thx for reply. No other Chance to buff without potions? Expensive AF

    dreughking jewellery and weapons plus VO/leki in body?

    I guess you could, tbh if you run vSO that jewelry sells well so you can definitely make up all the lost money

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    jombbi

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    Breton Templar

    @Nosfeatuzod – I have the VO jwelery but not the daggers. Actually have never seen them. My original thought was to use 5VO-5TBS- 2 Skoria/Mephala/Kena but the problem is without VO weapons if you use TBS 3 on body and 2 weapons with VO 2 on body and 3 jewelery, won’t the weapon swap reset the mundus buff?

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    Nosferatuzod

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    jombbi said on August 1, 2016 :

    @Nosfeatuzod – I have the VO jwelery but not the daggers. Actually have never seen them. My original thought was to use 5VO-5TBS- 2 Skoria/Mephala/Kena but the problem is without VO weapons if you use TBS 3 on body and 2 weapons with VO 2 on body and 3 jewelery, won’t the weapon swap reset the mundus buff?

    It would, whihc is why you need VO daggers. Tthey are pretty rare, because they only drop in two instances – Normal Sanctum ophidia, or Veteran Sanctum Ophidia (non-hard mode). With the addition of trading into trials it should be significantly easier to procure these items.

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    jombbi

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    Hmmm…well I guess till then I’ll use some other dagger prob leki and make me TBS for body and keep looking for those daggers. However the tough part is I only do vSO. Probably have to start farming normal then. I guess they only drop from last boss?

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    Nosferatuzod

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    jombbi said on August 1, 2016 :

    Hmmm…well I guess till then I’ll use some other dagger prob leki and make me TBS for body and keep looking for those daggers. However the tough part is I only do vSO. Probably have to start farming normal then. I guess they only drop from last boss?

    Yeah…what im going to do is run nSO and pay 100k per dagger…I should get em quick…

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    jombbi

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    Breton Templar

    any luck so far with those daggers….

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    Nosferatuzod

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    jombbi said on August 3, 2016 :

    any luck so far with those daggers….

    Not yet, I’ve been farming cradle of Shadows, but I learned that the weapons drop from vet AA and vet HRC (any boss) so no nSO farming for me.

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