The Reaver – A Melee Self-healing Mobile Skirmisher

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    Atropos

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    UPDATE: This build has been REPLACED with a permanent featured build post. Please refer to the following post for the current implementation for this build: http://tamrielfoundry.com/2014/12/reaver-sorcerer/

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    Ciridae

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    What do you think about going into the Mages Guild for Entropy and its upgrades for this build?

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    Atropos

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    Ciridae said on February 22, 2014 :

    What do you think about going into the Mages Guild for Entropy and its upgrades for this build?

    Degeneration is actually a fantastic choice for this build, and I would love to slot it instead of Endless Fury if you aren’t finding yourself in need of an execute to convert on kills in PvP. Part of the reason why I haven’t added this (yet) is that I haven’t been able to experiment with Degeneration personally. In the long run version of this build, I think it’s a great choice, but my adding it to the base recommended build would be pending on my getting some firsthand experience with it. On paper, it looks like a great choice.

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    Phyzzyx

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    So many new rules! Anyways, I like it. It kind of reminds me of the Kicksin from Diablo 2. Wasn’t necessarily invincible, and completely relied basically on hitting the crits to survive. Didn’t last long if it didn’t hit them, the catch though was it attacked so fast and it’s crit chance was so high, it was very unlikely that it would be an issue, and was effectively more sturdy than builds that relied basically on lots of health and armor.

     

    That said, it’s almost hard to fathom they would allow for 100% crit chance + self-healing, but it looked like it wasn’t an issue in Nybling’s overcharging video. Should be interesting. Alchemy will very likely be a definite market to jump into.

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    Do you think a similar build could be viable with more of a magica focus? Perhaps with a ranged option and more supportive skills on swap instead of the sword/board.

    edit: Also, what kind of spread between stamina and magica would you recommend? I assume you won’t be able to cap both with just gear alone.

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    Ciridae

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    Well the medium passives with attack speed and crit chance are pretty appropriate here. I like the idea of this build, but I also see what your saying about a more magica focused build. Maybe a resto staff on the swap.  Do healing passives from that stack in this case? I’ve never used one in beta so I’m not very familiar with them.

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    Phyzzyx

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    Restoration Staff passives only work with Restoration Staff equipped, so for this build, it would be essentially useless. The only skill that may be worth it would be force siphon, and that relies on you not losing the debuff when you switch back to dual wielding.

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    Ciridae

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    Ahh, yes, that would be garbage then. Nevermind, nevermind.

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    Mithron

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    @Atropos, thanks for sharing your expertise in this well thought out build. Just a few questions:

     

    1) How are you planning on levelling up with this build? Which weapon and what abilities will you be aiming for?

     

    2) Will you be changing anything while you level, solo, or run in endgame PVE groups/raids?

     

    3) Will you be utilizing an AoE swap if needed? If so, what will be your AoE loadout?

     

    4) What is your overall fight strategy, skill priority? Are you using mainly light attacks or heavy attacks between your abilities? I know in ESO it is very situational.

     

    5) What are your thoughts of putting Bound Armaments on both bars?  More survivability with the passive armor, more damage from heavy attacks (and therefore more healing) due to the morph, and the 20% increased health regen from the passive, Daedric Protection. Or is it just too much of an investment due to 2 slots? (Replace Elude on 1H&S, no idea what on the dual daggers since everything seems too good to replace.)

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    @Atropos

    “49 Health / 0 Magicka / 0 Stamina – Itemize fully for Magicka/Stamina”

    Can you hit the soft cap for both magicka/stamina with gear and racials? If not, how do you envision the split between the 2?

    I DONT JUST WANT TO WEAR DAEDRIC ARMOR, I WANT TO BE a DAEDRA.

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    Phyzzyx

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    Kynmarcher said on February 22, 2014 :

    @Atropos

    “49 Health / 0 Magicka / 0 Stamina – Itemize fully for Magicka/Stamina”

    Can you hit the soft cap forboth magicka/stamina with gear and racials? If not, how do you envision the split between the 2?

    You can definitely hit one of the caps without any stats in that class. With racials and a mix of gear, you can probably get very very close to soft caps for magicka and stamina, if not hit them. That’s probably something we’ll have to play with. Nybling posted the video where he passed the softcap in magicka with 49 points in health as an Altmer sorcerer with 5 pieces of light armor. I would say with the passive for medium armor and two medium armor pieces, you’ll be as close as the build relatively needs to be.

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    Phyzzyx said on February 22, 2014 :

    Kynmarcher said on February 22, 2014 :

    @Atropos

    “49 Health / 0 Magicka / 0 Stamina – Itemize fully for Magicka/Stamina”

    Can you hit the soft cap forboth magicka/stamina with gear and racials? If not, how do you envision the split between the 2?

    You can definitely hit one of the caps without any stats in that class. Yep. With racials and a mix of gear, you can probably get very very close to soft caps for magicka and stamina, if not hit them. That’s what I’m asking. That’s probably something we’ll have to play with. That’s why I’m asking. Nybling posted the video where he passed the softcap in magicka with 49 points in health as an Altmer sorcerer with 5 pieces of light armor. IIRC, he had overcharged magicka, but pretty much base stamina. Doesn’t mean it isn’t possible, tho. I would say with the passive for medium armor and two medium armor pieces, you’ll be as close as the build relatively needs to be. Sorry, but that doesn’t answer my question at all.

     

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    I DONT JUST WANT TO WEAR DAEDRIC ARMOR, I WANT TO BE a DAEDRA.

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    Kynmarcher said on February 22, 2014 :

    You can definitely hit one of the caps without any stats in that class. Yep.With racials and a mix of gear, you can probably get very very close to soft caps for magicka and stamina, if not hit them. That’s what I’m asking.That’s probably something we’ll have to play with. That’s whyI’m asking.Nybling posted the video where he passed the softcap in magicka with 49 points in health as an Altmer sorcerer with 5 pieces of light armor. IIRC, he had overchargedmagicka, but pretty much base stamina. Doesn’t mean it isn’t possible, tho.I would say with the passive for medium armor and two medium armor pieces, you’ll be as close as the build relatively needs to be. Sorry, but that doesn’t answer my question at all.

    Sorry, I may have worded that less than helpful. What I meant to imply was there was change Nybling’s build, and there was more than enough room to add stamina if he wanted. Remember he was using white pants and such, and capped still with 5L/2H. A Redguard with it’s innate stamina bonuses, using 4 or 5 medium enchanted with magicka, and 2 or 3 light armor enchanted with stamina, or an Altmer using 4 or 5 light armor, and 2 or 3 medium armor enchanted respectively to counteract their shortcomings should get a huge headstart.

     

    This probably still doesn’t completely answer your question, since we really don’t know yet, but I would put down money that there is a way. Possibly if you optimized your gear and then completely balanced the two just by adding the armor that I mentioned, you could hit both stat caps eventually with no stat points in them.

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    Phyzzyx said on February 22, 2014 :

    Sorry, I may have worded that less than helpful. What I meant to imply was there was change Nybling’s build, and there was more than enough room to add stamina if he wanted. Remember he was using white pants and such, and capped still with 5L/2H. A Redguard with it’s innate stamina bonuses, using 4 or 5 medium enchanted with magicka, and 2 or 3 light armor enchanted with stamina, or an Altmer using 4 or 5 light armor, and 2 or 3 medium armor enchanted respectively to counteract their shortcomings should get a huge headstart.

    This probably still doesn’t completely answer your question, since we really don’t know yet, but I would put down money that there is a way. Possibly if you optimized your gear and then completely balanced the two just by adding the armor that I mentioned, you could hit both stat caps eventually with no stat points in them.

    I’m not doubting the validity of the claim, I just would like to see a definitive answer. It’s a unique approach if you can do it. I’ve never played a RPG that basically rendered all their attributes pointless by letting everyone max every single stat. *shrug* You already get 300 skill points. You can prolly have all the attributes, too.

     

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    @atropos so I have to assume then that there is no soft cap for things like critical strike chance/rating?  I never got a chance to check it out so wasn’t sure.  If not that opens up a lot of possibilities :)

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    @Atropos

     

    Can you explain the “proc” with Crystal Fragments. I assume this means the 35% chance at insta-cast and 50% magic cost reduction can be triggered without using the skill, if so is there an indicator on the hotbar to signal you that the skill can be used in this manner as opposed to the normal cast?

     

    Also, how does Boundless Storm tie in to Crystal Fragments? I’m assuming the more hits you land on an enemy, the more chances Crystal Shards has of “proccing”, is that correct?

     

    Is Rapid Strikes worth the 6 seconds of attack speed increase, weighing it against the stamina cost? If so, how often do you try to use this skill, as often as possible to keep the attack speed buff up?

     

    What are your thoughts on using Bow/AoE spec for the secondary skill bar?

     

    Lastly, what are your thoughts on replacing Energy Overload with Flawless Dawnbreaker, primarily for the 10% damage increase passive?

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    Doesn’t the khajit racial only apply to physical dmg?

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    @milehighblazer crystal fragments can proc when any magicka ability is used.  Your hands glow purple when it procs

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    You’ll definitely either need to be paying close attention to the default UI in order to be on top of the Crystal Fragments procs, OR (a better suggestion) use an addon which tracks active buff effects. Each individual tick of Lightning Form is not a separate proc chance, but you are casting spells every few seconds (Lightning Form being one of the main ones) that you’ll get quite a few proc opportunities naturally just by re-applying it.

    Jevanko said on February 23, 2014 :

    Doesn’t the khajit racial only apply to physical dmg?

    Based on some rough testing, it seems like the crit chance component of the Khajiit racial applies to physical only, but the critical damage multiplier seems to work for spells as well. I need to do more thorough testing of this sometime before launch to be certain.

    schnoffle said on February 23, 2014 :

    so I have to assume then that there is no soft cap for things like critical strike chance/rating?

    There likely IS some sort of diminishing returns on critical chance. I haven’t been able to deduce that threshold yet, but several guild members have successfully reported fairly ludicrous crit. percentages that they have achieved. My numerical example above was mostly spit-balling for the time being, but it demonstrates that the marginal returns to critical percentage are convex (increasing at an increasing rate).

    I’m going to update the OP later today with some strategy/playstyle/leveling-tips. Be forewarned, it’s going to get wall-of-text heavy.

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    schnoffle said on February 23, 2014 :

    @milehighblazer crystal fragments can proc when any magicka ability is used. Your hands glow purple when it procs

    Awesome, thanks for clarifying.

     

    Any thoughts on replacing Energy Overload with Flawless Dawnbreaker?

     

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