Stamina Nightblade PvE DPS Guide for One Tamriel

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    redvic96

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    From my testing I used precise maelstrom dagger and sharpened pacts axe with the 700 weapon dmg glyph (the amount at gold level is like 694) and I have sharp ma el bow. My build is a little different as u said but I got 35k on 3 minute fight and 4k on shorter 1 minute. The extent of my testing is about 7 runs

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    redvic96

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    Thanks for the guide by the way. Hasn’t been much by way of top end builds of late and yours are always so in depth. One day I will learn to computer and try my hand at a real build post

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    redvic96 said on June 12, 2016 :

    From my testing I used precise maelstrom dagger and sharpened pacts axe with the 700 weapon dmg glyph (the amount at gold level is like 694) and I have sharp ma el bow. My build is a little different as u said but I got 35k on 3 minute fight and 4k on shorter 1 minute. The extent of my testing is about 7 runs

    Thx for the input. With one msa weapon, you’ll get the proc 50% of the time, so you basically lose 1500 weapon damage on dots to gain 700 on everything. Well, not really 700 of cause as the cooldown of the glyph should be 6s while the duration is 5. So you Only get 583 on average.

    Don’t get me wrong, for AoE for example, msa weapons are not helpful at all so there are situations where it’s beneficial to run sth else, like your axe.

    Pact’s Axe also has an issue if the enchant runs out when you swap to bow, then you always have some seconds without the proc.

     

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    Jeckll

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    I updated the guide a bit to point out a bit better when to use Skoria and a MSA Axe. Thanks for your suggestions guys.

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    GoodOrc

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    Hi, Jeckll, I like  your’s guide.

    Wanted to ask you obout video to do comparisments.

    What bufs you hawe? What numbers you gat? 36.500? And ctr.

    Like my NB in new patch but reely dont like vMA weapons, or rapids to be exact :)

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    TheDivusMaximus

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    I decided upon a lot of my CP allocation based on this guide. Thanks and thanks again!

    Maximus Out! (www.maximusguild.com)

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    GoodOrc said on June 13, 2016 :

    Hi Alcast like your’s guide

    Wanted to ask you obout video to do comparisments.

    What bufs you hawe? What numbers you gat? 36.500? And ctr.

    Like my NB in new patch but reely dont like vMA weapons, or rapids to be exact

    Hi Mate,

    not sure if I understood all you asked, so just write again if I didnt answer everything you want to know.

    Yeah, @Alcast is a good guy and I also like what he’s doing.

    What do you want me to do a video about? Playing a raid? Compare different gears?

    My buffs are the regular ones when I run solo: Major Brutality (+20% Weapon Damage), Major Savagery (+10% Crit), Minor Savagery (+3% crit), Minor Endurance (+10% Stamina Regeneration) and Minor Berserk (+8% Damage).

    In my regular Raid Group, you can get 40k and more on a single target boss depending on the buffs and debuffs your raid is running. I didnt raid a lot, yet since Dark Brotherhood was released. We did Sanctum Ophidia Hardmode once and I had 33k on the Serpent in a Fight that was 10:20 min long. But I had to rezz and help with the Lamia Adds. So it’s hard to say how much it’s possible. I will add DPS Screenshots soon.

    Without Rapid and MSA Weapons, you are still able to do really great damage, just not the best possible.

     

    TheDivusMaximus said on June 13, 2016 :

    I decided upon a lot of my CP allocation based on this guide. Thanks and thanks again!

    Glad I could help.

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    redvic96

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    I use my ma el dagger only for the weapon dmg buff it gives me. My build is a bit different so rapid strikes is not on my bar at all and focused aim is my spam able.  I Do Plan On testing with my 2 daggers and using my maelstrom proc. Does this proc work at all for things such as snipe or is it working as intended? Also what kind of numbers did you get with this build? I know all of your old builds continually made my dps look like scrub status lol. Sorry if the dps is posted, im on my phone so I can’t see a few of the posts

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    redvic96 said on June 13, 2016 :

    I use my ma el dagger only for the weapon dmg buff it gives me. My build is a bit different so rapid strikes is not on my bar at all and focused aim is my spam able. I Do Plan On testing with my 2 daggers and using my maelstrom proc. Does this proc work at all for things such as snipe or is it working as intended? Also what kind of numbers did you get with this build? I know all of your old builds continually made my dps look like scrub status lol. Sorry if the dps is posted, im on my phone so I can’t see a few of the posts

    I will update some DPS Screens soon. I usually dont run around screenshoting my DPS so I will have to make me remember it whenever we kills something interesting. All I have atm is the Blood Spawn Video I made when I wrote the build on Saturday. It was like “Mate, can you tank Blood Spawn once so I can show people my rotation?!” So I had no group buffs and it was only one try and I got about 36.5k I think. Just give me a few days and I’m sure I can post more.

    MSA Proc only works on Single Target Dots, so no benefit for Snipe.

     

    steve051779 said on June 12, 2016 :

    What if you solo play or pug undaunted? 5 Night Mother’s (or Hundings?)?

    I run 5 NMG when doing undaunted quests.

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    KaindeMort

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    First of all, thank you for guide. I use it since 6 update, and it helped quite often.
    Decided to write because I can not understand something.
    I am Khajiit, 1200 stam rec unbaffed. After ZoS broke Medicinal Use, it is very difficult to maintain stamina at proper level.

    How do you manage not to run out of stamina at 800?

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    KaindeMort said on June 13, 2016 :

    First of all, thank you for guide. I use it since 6 update, and it helped quite often.
    Decided to write because I can not understand something.
    I am Khajiit, 1200 stam rec unbaffed. After ZoS broke Medicinal Use, it is very difficult to maintain stamina at proper level.

    How do you manage not to run out of stamina at 800?

    A heavy Attack every 10s to refresh Mephala, Siphoning Attacks before the start and enough DPS to finish stuff in a few seconds I guess.

    In groups or raids, there is repentence and a shard if things get tricky.

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    Thanks for the quick response.

    For those who do not have MA daggers\bow (still struggle with my first vMA), Mephala still a good choice?

    At the moment, my gear is:
    5- Hunding, 3- Agility, 2-Kena. Vengeance of the Leech Axe and Dagger with WD enchantment.

    My damage has grown, after I replaced NMG 3 with Kena and Leach, but i got a problem with a lack of stamina at some point(long boss fight). But it allowed me to get to the Stage 9.

    My question: is it worth to think about replacing the current gear with the 3 NMG(2 Leki) + 2 Mephala?

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    redvic96

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    Lol. Yea I was just wondering if they broke yet another mechanic. Going to test a dot build today and see how I like the 2 daggers.

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    Azurri

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    From the Patch Notes:-

    Item Sets

    Fixed an issue where the default enchantments on Alliance War weapons had higher values than intended.

    The Axe’s effect has been changed to 306 Weapon damage for 5 seconds at ‘blue’ grade.

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    KaindeMort said on June 13, 2016 :

    Thanks for the quick response.

    For those who do not have MA daggers\bow (still struggle with my first vMA), Mephala still a good choice?

    At the moment, my gear is:
    5- Hunding, 3- Agility, 2-Kena.Vengeance of the Leech Axe and Dagger with WD enchantment.

    My damage has grown, after I replaced NMG 3 with Kena and Leach, but i got a problem with a lack of stamina at some point(long boss fight). But it allowed me to get to the Stage 9.

    My question: is it worth to think about replacing the current gear with the 3 NMG(2 Leki) + 2 Mephala?

    I think Mephala is better for more advanced vMSA players. But it’s hard to tell since I didnt do a run without the potion bug, yet. I heared its fixed with todays patch. I also read they fix the “too high” Weapon Enchantments on PvP Weapons. Dont know if the Axe of the Leech is affected by that.

     

    I would use 5 Hunding, 1 Kena, 1 Bloodspawn + Weapons of your choice rather than Mephala to complete the Arena for the first time if you already trained without mephala as it requires a different playstyle and switching before you learned to kill the final stage is not wise imho. Stick to your setup, kill the Baron and afterwards you can adjust with other setups.

     

     

    redvic96 said on June 13, 2016 :

    Lol. Yea I was just wondering if they broke yet another mechanic. Going to test a dot build today and see how I like the 2 daggers.

     

    Hope this patch note doesnt affect your build mate:

    Fixed an issue where the default enchantments on Alliance War weapons had higher values than intended.

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    Azurri said on June 13, 2016 :

    From the Patch Notes:-

    Item Sets

    Fixed an issue where the default enchantments on Alliance War weapons had higher values than intended.

    The Axe’s effect has been changed to 306Weapon damage for 5 seconds at ‘blue’grade.

    OMG ^^ I thought so when I red the patch notes. Yeah, this kills the whole thing. Thanks for letting me know.

     

    I deleted the following passage suggestion the Leech Axe from my guide as its no longer viable:

    (2) Pact’s/Covennant’s/Dominion’s Axe, Sharpened or Precise
    Part of the Vengeance Leech Set with a unique Enchant that grants almost 700 Weapon Damage. Dont use 2 of those. You basically have one slot to spare (the second Dual Wield Weapon) and skip 1 set bonus but 700 Weapon Damage is pretty fantastic. @Alcast was so impressed he made a build around it with 5 TBS, 3 NMG, 3 Agility and this Axe. I personally would prefer using the setup I suggested and just take a random Dagger as second weapon. Important thing is that you use a Weapon Damage Glyphe on that dagger as it stacks with the Enchantment of the Axe. Woohooo over 1k Weapon Damage on procs. Should be in purchaseable chests in Cyrodiil. I found one in the guild store.

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    mrowmrif2

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    yeah you can imagine the bitching today on PC lol…  first thing i saw when i logged in this morning was guildie bitching about leeching axe lol…

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    arthonduskfall

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    Would a mix of night mothers gaze and hundings Rage work as a replacement to the dropped gear you listed?

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    arthonduskfall said on June 13, 2016 :

    Would a mix of night mothers gaze and hundings Rage work as a replacement to the dropped gear you listed?

    Sure, 5 NMG, 4 Hundings does work. My “Crafting only suggestion”  5 NMG and 4 Kvatch Gladiator is only slightly better because you trade 1 Stamina vs 1 Weapon Damage. But you will be fine with the 5 NMG, 4 Hundings until you earn the drop stuff.

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    Drackstin

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    Glad to see you have a new guide up. I’m hoping to improve my build this week. patch drops for me tomorrow. keep up the great work @jeckll. and thank you for answering so many questions that we all have.

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