Stamina Nightblade PvE DPS For Morrowind

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    Jeckll

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    Junglerog said on September 1, 2017 :

    Jeckll this one looks richer than a Morrowind version. May I ask you to provide default values for new factors whenever you find a minute? Talking about weapon dmg multiplier etc.

    Weapon damage multiplier is 12% (med armor) + 20% major brutality + 5% minor brutality (if you raid with a dk) + xx% if you use fighters guild abilities.

    Stamina multiplier is 10% redguard racial + 2% undaunted if you run 7 med + 10% warhorn if you optimize for raids.

     

    Arrchangelll said on September 1, 2017 :

    Is it worth changing my race to redguard from imperial? Do u have any tips how i can improve my LA on bow, i’m really bad at those, it’s super low amount, it’s like i keep missing the animation cancel.

    Train by doing it slower. Make sure you cast the skill after you actually hear / see the light attack arrow go off. Then slowly increase speed.

    I don’t think you need to change races. I personally would. But in general the difference is not that big.

     

    Meowbin said on September 1, 2017 :

    With regards to lover mundus- How do you allocate that? Sorry, I’m not good at this math :S

    Or is the stronger mundus the shadow?

    It’s “other penetration”.

    Shadow is a piece of shit now :(

     

     

    Khira said on September 1, 2017 :

    Jeckll said on August 31, 2017 :

    Are you playing on PC EU?

    Yes, I`m playing on EU, Pc..

    I have the impression its difficult for a “beginner” to play with the armor set war machine. To play with hiercines veneer its more fun. With this set i have enough stamina and if i have mistakes in my rotation, it doesn´t matters, i cast an other skill. But my damage is much lower. So I wanna do the best with it, and I try to learn to handle it

    I try to find my way to do more damage and I try to practicise animation cancelling or weaving.. I know weaving and animation cancelling isn<code>t the same, but I don</code>t know much about this, sorry..

    its easier for me to block after using a skill, but I dont really know whats the right methode for me and my little nightblade. if i block after the skill I can`t reg my stamina.. With heavy attack weaving I have enough stamina, but sorry, I dont know, if i do it right because its slow.

    First I start with the focus, than caltrops, hail and poison injection…. But I have the feeling endless hail doesnt has the right place in my rotation, maybe Im to slow, and I need more time to train..

    It’s definitely not beginner friendly. Nothing in this guide is really catered to beginners as I optimize everything for max dps in the hardest content in the game.

    I don’t build in room for errors because I don’t allow myself to do them. Obviously, I make mistakes like everyone but I try to minimize them every time I play.

    The guide can be a guideline for beginners and if you have better results with other setups, you should try them. My setup tries to enable you to do reach the very maximum dps possible. But to reach it, you need to play very well. You seem to be at the start of your journey – which is cool – we all started like you. You can do 95% of the game without any trouble even if you don’t reach for the top, have the best gear or ac perfectly. It’s just a personal thing. The most important thing is to have fun. However you achieve that is up to you. If you want to do more dps, I gladly help. If that means you have less fun, you should not go my route any further.

    You think heavy attacks are slow, yet every end game dps build uses them. What does that tell you? All you need is practice and patience.

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    Khira

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    Thank you for your reply. You are very patiently.

    My group and I we have a lot of fun to run  dungeons. Me as a healer. But we had never compleded a vDLC-Dungeon or  vCOA II. (The nDLC dungeons needs not more than doing 15 000 DPS)  My group is too weak for it. My friends are happy without it. Some prefer to start a new game, instead of getting realy good. My friends are bored, if I want to talk about armor, DPS and so on. Its ok. But I want more. I like to get some archivements, I like to be upset, if I dont reach the goal.. I dont wanna playing always the easy way. Its boring..

    And sometimes I need a role model although my hair are grey. I know the people here in your guide  are all superior to me. They know much more and they have the practice and they reached the top. My posts sound if I had lost my way here. But I hope, you will understand that, I`m not a realy bloody beginner anymore, but far away to be the best.

    I had a little time to train my sweet nightblade. Now I do nearly 25 000 DPS. And I have the missing ring of war machine. And I enchanted the ring with weapon damage. I had a litte fear, because of my stamina reg. It seemed very low. I have the feeling with the heavy attack weaving is it ok, but my impression is, it doesn`t work with every skill. I struggle with the skills of my bow, so I only use heavy attack weaving on dual wild bar. Maybe its my fault. But now I have a little more fun, because all things will become easier with more DPS.

    My uptimes of the buffs should be better, but I`m working on it .

    http://fs5.directupload.net/images/170903/75jwzikv.png

     

    why is poisoned weapon so strong? in every “fight” in my training it is so . I thought DOT should be always stronger. ..

    Do you use a special game mouse?

    do you reach 100% uptime with “major slayer?”

    Is there some cap at “weapon damage”?

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    Jeckll said on September 1, 2017 :

    Is it worth changing my race to redguard from imperial? Do u have any tips how i can improve my LA on bow, i’m really bad at those, it’s super low amount, it’s like i keep missing the animation cancel.

    Train by doing it slower. Make sure you cast the skill after you actually hear / see the light attack arrow go off. Then slowly increase speed.

    I don’t think you need to change races. I personally would. But in general the difference is not that big.

     

    Ok i managed to improve a little bit, got 37k consistently on the dummy, Imperial with dubious 5 TFS 5 VO, 2 Hunding dagger (infused/precise). Need to get TFS daggers or VO though. Do use any block cancel maybe? On relentless buffing or leeching strikes? I’m really tempted changing the race, when i calculated how much the Redguard passive gives stamina back, it’s almost exactly like using leeching strikes which is amazing.

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    Sun7dance

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    Don’t use 2 TFS Weapons! If you don’t have a MSA Bow, then you can use a TFS Bow and one Weapon. If you use TFS only on your Mainbar, you will lose the bonus on your Backbar. That’s not good! I’m not really a friend of using VO only on weapons, because your skills on the Backbar are more expensive. Ok, for vMSA you can do it, because you usually kill enemies on your Mainbar and so you can restore stamina at least.

    You can block cancel endless Hail, because the animation takes longer than 1sec.

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    cyrups

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    Are really 2 daggers better than axe+dagger now?

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    Jeckll

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    cyrups said on September 3, 2017 :

    Are really 2 daggers better than axe+dagger now?

    As always when you compare static damage like an axe bleed with scaling damage like +crit, it depends on your total dps. Lets say you do 20k dps on an static mob like a dummy, axe bleed will be better than dagger crit. If you are really good and/or you have good group support and/or adds are involved and/or you have a mobile encounter where you cant achieve maximum bleed uptime, dagger crit will perform better than axe bleed.

     

    Arrchangelll said on September 2, 2017 :

    Jeckll said on September 1, 2017 :

    Train by doing it slower. Make sure you cast the skill after you actually hear / see the light attack arrow go off. Then slowly increase speed.

    I don’t think you need to change races. I personally would. But in general the difference is not that big.

    Ok i managed to improve a little bit, got 37k consistently on the dummy, Imperial with dubious 5 TFS 5 VO, 2 Hunding dagger (infused/precise). Need to get TFS daggers or VO though. Do use any block cancel maybe? On relentless buffing or leeching strikes? I’m really tempted changing the race, when i calculated how much the Redguard passive gives stamina back, it’s almost exactly like using leeching strikes which is amazing.

    VO Daggers are ok, TFS weapons are not. You would lose your TFS penetration stacks whenever you swap to bow bar. You use Leeching Strikes AND dubious? Well I can tell you 100% you are not heavy attacking enough and even when going Redguard, you will not be able to maximize your dps without embracing the need to heavy attack for sustain instead of relying on VO, Dubious or Leeching Strikes.

     

    Khira said on September 2, 2017 :

    Thank you for your reply. You are very patiently.

    My group and I we have a lot of fun to run dungeons. Me as a healer. But we had never compleded a vDLC-Dungeon or vCOA II. (The nDLC dungeons needs not more than doing 15 000 DPS) My group is too weak for it. My friends are happy without it. Some prefer to start a new game, instead of getting realy good. My friends are bored, if I want to talk about armor, DPS and so on. Its ok. But I want more. I like to get some archivements, I like to be upset, if I dont reach the goal.. I dont wanna playing always the easy way. Its boring..

    And sometimes I need a role model although my hair are grey. I know the people here in your guide are all superior to me. They know much more and they have the practice and they reached the top. My posts sound if I had lost my way here. But I hope, you will understand that, I`m not a realy bloody beginner anymore, but far away to be the best.

    I had a little time to train my sweet nightblade. Now I do nearly 25 000 DPS. And I have the missing ring of war machine. And I enchanted the ring with weapon damage. I had a litte fear, because of my stamina reg. It seemed very low. I have the feeling with the heavy attack weaving is it ok, but my impression is, it doesn`t work with every skill. I struggle with the skills of my bow, so I only use heavy attack weaving on dual wild bar. Maybe its my fault. But now I have a little more fun, because all things will become easier with more DPS.

    My uptimes of the buffs should be better, but I`m working on it .

    http://fs5.directupload.net/images/170903/75jwzikv.png

    why is poisoned weapon so strong? in every “fight” in my training it is so . I thought DOT should be always stronger. ..

    Do you use a special game mouse?

    do you reach 100% uptime with “major slayer?”

    Is there some cap at “weapon damage”?

    Have you ever watched my rotation video on youtube? You should only heavy attack on your dual wield bar anyways. I strongly suggest watching the vid.
    Your Poisoned Weapon does so “much” damage because its static. You dont have to actively play well to get glyph proccs, so your Glyph DPS is about as good as mine for example. The difference is that percentage wise, 2.3k DPS for me is kind of mediocre, because I can make my scaling skills doing far more DPS than a static damage source can do.

    I use 5 Buttons on the mouse but 4 and 5 are Dodge and Block, so it doesnt matter for Dummy DPS. The Uptime with Major Slayer you can reach with a proper rotation on a dummy is ~42-45%. Yours is pretty high so I think you might actively bar swap to dual wield just to use your ultimate at 70 instead of finishing your rotation properly to gain the maximum benefit.

    There is no cap to weapon damage.

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    Rhoswyn

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    Under the new patch, would your Maelstrom set-up be the same? If not what changes should one make?

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    Jeckll

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    Rhoswyn said on September 5, 2017 :

    Under the new patch, would your Maelstrom set-up be the same? If not what changes should one make?

    Infused mMain hand instead of sharpened, warrior mundus.
    Rending Slashes instead of Steel Tornado, Leeching Strikes instead of Caltrops.

    Allocate CP in a way that you have about 12k Pen on your dual wield bar. (~30 Points in Piercing)

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    Khira

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    Hello

    please can you tell me, why its sometimes necessary to exchange night mother gaze against an other armor set in raid?
    And do you have a suggestion what I can use instead? It should be craftable..
    At the moment I wear war machine and night mothers gaze and Kr`agh

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    Jeckll

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    Khira said on September 5, 2017 :

    Hello

    please can you tell me, why its sometimes necessary to exchange night mother gaze against an other armor set in raid?
    And do you have a suggestion what I can use instead? It should be craftable..
    At the moment I wear war machine and night mothers gaze and Kr`agh

    Because only one person per group can apply the armor debuff that the 5pc bonus of Night Mother’s Gaze applies. So having multiple people using the set is wasted. Hunding’s Rage is the craftable alternative.

     

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    Jeckll

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    Hi guys,
    didnt take this decision lightly but it’s time to move on. Dont know where because there are no real alternatives but I just dont enjoy playing ESO anymore.

    The last patch pretty much killed it for me as theory crafting means little when basically every combination results in roughly the same DPS. There are a million reasons not to play ESO – most of you know them and the only reason I kept playing for so long was because the community was so supportive and thankful for the work I did besides actually playing.

    So thank you for carrying me for so long. I loved discussing, teaching, training and improving with you all. It was a blast, wasnt it?

    Maybe I see some of you again in another game, maybe I return … who knows.
    Best of luck for all of you.
    Jeckll

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    Khira

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    Hello Jeckll,

    I see, I started too late to push forward with my little nightblade. Its impossible to find someone like you with all the knowledge and with this patience to explain something, again and again.
    Thank you for your helpfull advices.

    Good bye.

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    Soulflame

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    Really sad to see you go! Hopefully you return someday, but if not, I wish you luck in other games :) Thank you so much for helping me over the years with my Nightblade, I wouldn’t be the player I am now without your guide and suggestions. For those of us who may have questions in the future, do you have any recommendations for (preferably Stamblade) theorycrafters who could help or who produce good guides?

    The Faceless – NA/DC – Roleplaying/Community Guild – www.the-faceless.com/home

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    Really sad to see you go @JeckII – you have been a pillar to this community for a long time <3

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    Jeckll

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    Soulflame said on September 5, 2017 :

    Do you have any recommendations for (preferably Stamblade) theorycrafters who could help or who produce good guides?

    There is Gilliamtherogue who’s main is a PvE Stamblade. You can find him on the official forums and on Youtube.
    You can also check other guide makers like Alcast or Nosferatuzod. While I never agree 100% with other Stamblade guides (doesnt mean I’m always right :P ) those guys do their best to help and with the way ESO works right now, the difference between the best and the worst is so small, you will still be able to play the game without problems even if you dont have the very best CP allocation, gear combination or skills you use.

    The only thing that really makes you be better in ESO is playing/training with your Stamblade. Perfect your rotation, awareness and reaction time. That will boost your DPS more than any set will be able to :)

    For all maths, go to @Asayre – a guy who helped me become a better gamer. Thanks dude :)

     

    Also thank you guys for the kind words regarding me leaving.

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    Asayre

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    Sorry to hear that you are leaving =( Have fun with all your future endeavors

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    Nosferatuzod

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    Jeckll said on September 5, 2017 :

    Hi guys,
    didnt take this decision lightly but it’s time to move on. Dont know where because there are no real alternatives but I just dont enjoy playing ESO anymore.

    The last patch pretty much killed it for me as theory crafting means little when basically every combination results in roughly the same DPS. There are a million reasons not to play ESO – most of you know them and the only reason I kept playing for so long was because the community was so supportive and thankful for the work I did besides actually playing.

    So thank you for carrying me for so long. I loved discussing, teaching, training and improving with you all.It was a blast, wasnt it?

    Maybe I see some of you again in another game, maybe I return … who knows.
    Best of luck for all of you.
    Jeckll

    Nooooooooooooooo….Seems like everyone is leaving!

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    Junglerog

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    Eso will never be the same without you Jeckll.

    Good luck in whatever you planning to do.

     

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    Latin

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    Jeckll said on September 5, 2017 :

    The only thing that really makes you be better in ESO is playing/training with your Stamblade. Perfect your rotation, awareness and reaction time. That will boost your DPS more than any set will be able to

    Words to live by.

     

    e pluribus unum

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    Khira

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    Junglerog said on September 6, 2017 :

    Eso will never be the same without you Jeckll.

    Good luck in whatever you planning to do.

    I`m looking for the “like button”…

     

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