Stamina Nightblade PvE DPS For Morrowind

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    cenomx

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    How hard would be the hit on DPS if I decide to use TFS weapons?

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    Jeckll

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    Soulflame said on August 12, 2017 :

    I’m trying to convince my group’s StamDK here that Powerful Assault is the best option for him, but honestly I can’t do much better than “Jeckll says to do it” which sounds rather weak. Would you mind explaining why you have the supporter stam sets set up the way you do? Why are Nightblades better with NMG than Dragonknights? Thanks in advance!

    Nbs have a higher crit damage modifiers so they benefit more from the 2 +crit bonuses. They also have the highest crit chance to procc the 5pc. But that’s all like 0.01% adjustments. The reason a dk should use pa is simply because you need caltrops on the Front Bar and nbs need relentless focus there while dks can swap skills more easily. It’s definitely not the best option for your Stam dk, he will lose dps with it. It’s just better for the raid.

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    Jeckll

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    cenomx said on August 12, 2017 :

    How hard would be the hit on DPS if I decide to use TFS weapons?

    You would be better off using any crafted set. It would destroy the set basically.

    Player: @Jeckll || Guild: Chimaira – Raidgroup Hydra || Server: EU

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    cenomx

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    You said that one of your dps uses the Powerful Assault, wouldn’t it fit better on tank and the Morag tong in one dps? Just curious

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    Jeckll

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    cenomx said on August 13, 2017 :

    You said that one of your dps uses the Powerful Assault, wouldn’t it fit better on tank and the Morag tong in one dps? Just curious

    Depends on your amount of stamDKs pretty much. We have 1 magDK and me, so we have 2 Melee dps who benefit more from having pa than from Mt.

    In hotr, Mt will be covered by our tank.

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    Jeckll

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    Just wanted to share with you guys a minute of silence to celebrate the fact that my raid lead just confirmed 4 Stam DPS slots for our raid starting pretty much now.

    This means we will run sunderflame, nmg, morag tong, powerful assault and war machine.
    Never thought I will see this day coming. *little tear crawling down*
    #happyJeckll

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    Xydionze

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    gg ! it’s a nice day for stam players :D

    Xydionze Nightblade Redguard // Drathas Telvani MagSorc DarkElf // Ferme-le-Four WardenTank // Shelsa StamSorc Redguard

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    Rhoswyn

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    Twice-Fanged Serpent: Reduced the Physical Penetration granted by this Item Set’s proc to 860 per stack from 1000.

    Still best in slot for trials?

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    Jeckll

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    Rhoswyn said on August 14, 2017 :

    Twice-Fanged Serpent: Reduced the Physical Penetration granted by this Item Set’s proc to 860 per stack from 1000.

    Still best in slot for trials?

    Thats why testing on PTS is so useless. Shadow and Thief got another nerf. Shadow only being 9% now, Thief 7%.

    Didnt check all the notes yet, but to answer your question: TFS is still the best set if you need the penetration.

    Initial thought without testing is using TFS + Warrior Mundus.

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    flacidstone

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    So I’m trying to gear currently and not sure where i should go. I’m working on war machine and happened to pull a sharpened dagger, is it worth it to run the sharpened dagger with another wm weapon with infused/precise/sharpened? or will i be losing a bit of dps considering ill be missing an infused or precise. other set is tfs and veli/krag. would it be in my best interest to go nmg or hundings with infused precise until i get a infused and precise drop from halls (pray daily to rngesus)

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    Jeckll

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    flacidstone said on August 14, 2017 :

    So I’m trying to gear currently and not sure where i should go. I’m working on war machine and happened to pull a sharpened dagger, is it worth it to run the sharpened dagger with another wm weapon with infused/precise/sharpened? or will i be losing a bit of dps considering ill be missing an infused or precise. other set is tfs and veli/krag. would it be in my best interest to go nmg or hundings with infused precise until i get a infused and precise drop from halls (pray daily to rngesus)

    Depends on what your group supplies in terms of armor debuffs.

    I had similar results when running Nmg instead of War machine solo. You can use Nmg until you have WM weapons with good traits.

    Considering precise doesn’t get buffed, having infused/sharp and sharp bow would work very well also if your group doesn’t fully penetrate the target already.

    Penetration really is a very individual thing now.

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    flacidstone

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    yeah i was thinking infused/sharp might be better considering the changes. so with the changes today are you thinking maybe back to axe/dagger instead of stacking crit?

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    Jeckll

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    flacidstone said on August 14, 2017 :

    yeah i was thinking infused/sharp might be better considering the changes. so with the changes today are you thinking maybe back to axe/dagger instead of stacking crit?

    Considering it, yeah.

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    flacidstone

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    looking forward to what you come up with. on xbox so no testing for me.

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    SevenPacer

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    Hey there,

    Before the HotR patch I was using 2x Kragh 5x Spriggan 5x Hundings and today I had the chance too see if my penetration number changed drastically.
    Here are the numbers I calculated today:
    100(Base)+1487(Kragh)+3370(Spriggan)+1376(dagger)+1376(axe) 2752(bow)+5280(major fructure)+ 2067 (CP) = 17808
    Do you think I should push really up to the 18.2 limit or is this number enough for an individual?

    Also I need one advice on this:
    My boots, belt, 2x weps and my bow are hunding’s so when I switch to bow bar, I lose 5 piece bonus. What can I  do to eliminate this? Do you think I should give up on shoulder piece or there is better solution?

    One last question:
    What would be the best mundus for a Redguard using these sets and having this penetration?

    Thanks!

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    Jeckll

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    SevenPacer said on August 14, 2017 :

    Hey there,

    Before the HotR patch I was using 2x Kragh 5x Spriggan 5x Hundings and today I had the chance too see if my penetration number changed drastically.
    Here are the numbers I calculated today:
    100(Base)+1487(Kragh)+3370(Spriggan)+1376(dagger)+1376(axe) 2752(bow)+5280(major fructure)+ 2067 (CP) = 17808
    Do you think I should push really up to the 18.2 limit or is this number enough for an individual?

    Also I need one advice on this:
    My boots, belt, 2x weps and my bow are hunding’s so when I switch to bow bar, I lose 5 piece bonus. What can I do to eliminate this? Do you think I should give up on shoulder piece or there is better solution?

    One last question:
    What would be the best mundus for a Redguard using these sets and having this penetration?

    Thanks!

    The solution to eliminate this is using NMG instead of Hunding’s Rage.

    Your calculation is wrong, you cant add Dual Wield Penetration to Bow Pen. It only applies one at a time.

    Your actual Penetration is

    100(Base)+1487(Kragh)+3370(Spriggan)+2752(weapon)+5280(major fructure)+ 2067 (CP) = 15056

    There is still a lot to penetrate left.

    With your Setup (Hunding’s and Spriggans), I suggest using:

    Lover + Sharpened + Kra’gh = 100+4197+2752+1487+3370+5280= 17186

    Then get the rest from CP until cap with CP.

    This is only for solo play.

     

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    Xenowarrior

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    yo jeckll any chance for a HOTR update? im rly pissed that most of shit works with at least 5k less dps now for some zos reason…so im wondering new sets? what u think about mixing the 2 new dlc sets+vma weps perhaps?like going full bleedin’ ?

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    wizzo45

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    So, with the new Mundus values… If simply accounting for the old Thief v Shadow debate, would the equation now be if:

    [CritModifier] > [CritChance] * (9/7)

    Then use Thief?

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    Kjorn

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    Is the new monster set any good for Stamblade every 5 seconds you could get a huge area dps and 200 extra physical dmg, is there a way it’ll shine after these new nerfs?

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    guineapirate

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    Xenowarrior said on August 14, 2017 :

    yo jeckll any chance for a HOTR update? im rly pissed that most of shit works with at least 5k less dps now for some zos reason…so im wondering new sets? what u think about mixing the 2 new dlc sets+vma weps perhaps?like going full bleedin’ ?

    solo parse will be lower, not much to do about that because of the sharpened nerf

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