Nos's Bo'-Bo' Stamblade PvE Guide (Homestead DLC Ready)

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    Nosferatuzod

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    Khajiit Templar

    EDITS:

    02/10/2017 - Updated for Homestead DLC

    02/15/2017 – Updated rotation and CP

    Get ready for a Bow/Bow PvE build!

    Shoutout to @fire0 (@rokrdt05) for helping me through endless Bloodspawn tests.

    Race:

    1. Khajit

    Attributes:

    All in Stamina

    Food:

    Health and Stamina

    Mundus:

    Thief

    Or

    Thief and Shadow

    Champion Point Distribution:

    Blue tree:

    99 Mighty, 71 Precise Strikes, 29 Thaumaturge

    Red tree:

    Points evenly across Hardy, Thick Skinned and Elemental Defender

    Green tree:

    100 into reduced cost, the rest into regen.

    Gear Choice:

    7/7 Medium

    5 Divines Twice Fanged Serpent/Twice Born Star all Stam Enchants

    1 Divines Velidreth Armor Stam Enchant

    1 Divines Kragh Armor Stam Enchant

    3 Vicious Ophidian Jewelry Weapon Damage Enchants

    1 Sharpened Maelstrom Bow

    1 Sharpened Master Bow

     

    Bar setup

    Main bar (Master Bow): Vigor, Light Weight Trap, Poison Injection, Focused Aim, Relentless Focus. Ultimate – Flawless Dawnbreaker

    Execute bar/AoE (vMA Bow): Acid Spray, Razor Caltrops, Endless Hail, Relentless Focus (Flex), Siphoning attacks. Ultimate – Ballista.

     

    Rotation:

    Step 1 (Master Bow Bar): Merciless Resolve>Bar Swap>Potion>Caltrops>Endless Hail>Bar Swap

    Step 2 (Master Bow Bar): Poison Injection>LA>Light Weight Trap>LA> Focused Aim + Light Weave x 4>Assasin’s Will>Bar Swap

    Step 3 (vMA Bow): Endless Hail>Balista>Bar Swap

    Restart at Step 2. Throw Razor Caltrops Down every 3rd bar swap.

     

    When the target reaches 25% the rotation DOES NOT change! No Killer’s Blade!

     

    Reasoning:

    1. Why Bow/Bow?

    Because its something different and it utilizes the newly available weapons from vDSA. Because being ranged allows one to be safer and thus serve the group better. Because you provide additional group utility. Mainly it is because it allows us to utilize both the Maelstrom and Master Bows, both of which are quiet extraordinary.

    2. Why Focused Aim?

    While Lethal Injection is our number one choice if there is a stamplar in the group, Focused Aim provides great utility if there is no Stamplar in group.

    3. Why Master Bow?

    Master bow provides a whopping 301 weapon damage on targets affected by your poison injection. In Single target fights this amounts to 440+ weapon damage (after buffs). This is a huge buff and it is on the back bar because the vMA passive buff gives 189 weapon damage, which is much better than the 1k stam you get passively from the master bow.

    4.  Why Light Weight Trap?

    Because it is ranged and allows us to stay away from the target. Thos allows our bow attacks and skills to benefit from increased damage via Bow passives.

    5. No Assasin’s will during execute?

    No, because the damage is too low compared to the other skills at our disposal.

    6. Why Razor Caltrops?

    Razor Caltrops lasts for 30 seconds, which perfectly synergizes with our rotation.

    7.  Why Ballista?

    Ballista is the best single target ultimate at our disposal (Use Shooting Star for AoE), since we are staying at range for the majority of the fight.

    8. Twice Fanged Serpent or TBS?

    Twice Fanged Serpent is the highest DPS gain of all three sets, provided you benefit from the full extent of its penetration. If full penetration is achieved, TBS is better.

    9. Why are we still using TBS after Major Force nerf

    Because we still you vMA weapons. vMA weapons are the main reason why TBS is so good. TBS increase damage by a set %, versus sets like Hundings that give weapon damage which is a set value.

    10. Which gear should I wear?

    When figuring out the best gear to wear, look at the total penetration in the raid. Boss and add resistance is around 18200. The possible debuffs you can have in raid are as follows:8

    Base – 100

    Major Fracture – 5280

    Minor Fracture – 1320

    Infused Crusher – 1944

    Kragh – 1900

    Sunderflame – 3440

    Nightmother’s gaze – 2580

    Alkosh – 3010

    Sharpened – 5160 or 2580 per weapon

    Twice Fang Serpent – 5000

    Total Penetration – nearly 30k

    11. Parses:

    http://imgur.com/a/a3Neh

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    Hizztko

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    Dunmer Sorcerer

    Thanks for this build. Its really interresting. I am not convainced by the Bow/Bow but well lets test it.

    But i really like the idea because “only” bow rotation should be used and viable as an unique playstyle and i really appreciated your work about this. I am going to follow this thread.

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    Nosferatuzod

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    Hizztko said on July 12, 2016 :

    Thanks for this build. Its really interresting. I am not convainced by the Bow/Bow but well lets test it.

    But i really like the idea because “only” bow rotation should be used and viable as an unique playstyle and i really appreciated your work about this. I am going to follow this thread.

    The build’s strength lies in the fact that it is ranged and thus is less subject to the issues of melee repositioning. This gives it the ability to measure up to Dual Wield fairly well. I am still trying to optimize several things and hoping to get an even better version out by the time the update hits live servers.

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    Vythri

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    I’d assume you’re using pots with Major Brutality?

     

    Either way, I’m always looking for an excuse to get unchained from my 2H, so this build is definitely something I’ll be checking out. Although, I’ll have to find a way to acquire those Bows first…

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    Nosferatuzod

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    Vythri said on July 12, 2016 :

    I’d assume you’re using pots with Major Brutality?

    Either way, I’m always looking for an excuse to get unchained from my 2H, so this build is definitely something I’ll be checking out. Although, I’ll have to find a way to acquire those Bows first…

    Yes, the pots give major crit/weps damage. Why 2h? You don’t use Dual wield?

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    Duckbutta

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    Daggerfall

    Vythri said on July 12, 2016 :

    I’d assume you’re using pots with Major Brutality?

    Either way, I’m always looking for an excuse to get unchained from my 2H, so this build is definitely something I’ll be checking out. Although, I’ll have to find a way to acquire those Bows first…

    Yes he is, you always want to be running pots for major brutality.  2H is older meta, if you want to be melee then you want to go DW/Bow (check out Nos’s Stam DK or Stam NB build in his sig for a template), otherwise give this build a shot for pure stam range.

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    Xenowarrior

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    Khajiit Nightblade

    looks awesome but I have a few questions that are like this… instead of 2 veledreth and 3 vicious ophidian why not using  5 morag tong for 15 or 10% more poison dmg ? also instead of veledreth why not go for 2/2 kena since with bow u can insta proc it and u win luts of wep dmg alsop the 33% cost increase doesn’t rly affect bow that much… as for main bar why not focus with vdsa bow and use venom arrow/venom snipe/FG trap/ evil hunter and another thing for the 3% wep dmg ? and use vma bow for buff/dot ? meaning merciless resolve/hail/caltrops/? sry for wrong names I still cant remember the right ones but u know what I mean overall… my point is to max dmg on main bar and use vma bow bar for buff/dots only and poison spray if needed aoe ? also how about combos like 5tbs+5tong or 5tbs+5marksman or 5tbs+5alkosh?

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    Vythri

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    Nosferatuzod said on July 12, 2016 :

    Yes, the pots give major crit/weps damage. Why 2h? You don’t use Dual wield?

    I’ve found it hard to get away from Rally. The heal, and the prebuff of Major Brutality before a fight (and not having to waste gold on pots) is just too good to give up. Granted, I’ve been mainly doing PvP with my Bowblade, and little to zero PvE. 2H is strictly used for buffs, and I never attack with it.

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    Nosferatuzod

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    Xenowarrior said on July 12, 2016 :

    looks awesome but I have a few questions that are like this… instead of 2 veledreth and 3 vicious ophidian why not using 5 morag tong for 15 or 10% more poison dmg ? also instead of veledreth why not go for 2/2 kena since with bow u can insta proc it and u win luts of wep dmg alsop the 33% cost increase doesn’t rly affect bow that much… as for main bar why not focus with vdsa bow and use venom arrow/venom snipe/FG trap/ evil hunter and another thing for the 3% wep dmg ? and use vma bow for buff/dot ? meaning merciless resolve/hail/caltrops/? sry for wrong names I still cant remember the right ones but u know what I mean overall… my point is to max dmg on main bar and use vma bow bar for buff/dots only and poison spray if needed aoe ? also how about combos like 5tbs+5tong or 5tbs+5marksman or 5tbs+5alkosh?

    Hey thanks for the reply, I’ll adrest your questions by numbers.

    1. The reason not to use morag tong is because we are only using have Poison Injection as a source of poison damage so Morag Tong is very lackluster for us.

    2. Marksman set only buffs damage against players, and thus build is purely for PvE.

    3. Kena is a special case. I personally hate the set and go to great lengths to avoid using it. Part of the reason for my issue with it is its uptime doesn’t exceed 75% on any build. The way the rotation in thia particular build works Kena’s uptime would be around 60%. This amounts to somewhere between 5.5-6% DPS increase. However if you notice the Velidreth set does that or more by itself and it does not increase skill cost. Additionally in a mixed AoE situation one proc of the set can deal upto 70k damage. That’s huge.

    4. The vDSA bow give a max stam bonus, vMA bow gives a weapon damage bonus, so we prefer to keep weapon damage on the main bar and stam bonus on the buff bar.

    5. After hours of testing the placement of skills on both bars that is currently there was the placement that yielded the highest DPS we were able to achieve.

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    Nosferatuzod

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    Vythri said on July 12, 2016 :

    Nosferatuzod said on July 12, 2016 :

    Yes, the pots give major crit/weps damage. Why 2h? You don’t use Dual wield?

    I’ve found it hard to get away from Rally. The heal, and the prebuff of Major Brutality before a fight (and not having to waste gold on pots) is just too good to give up. Granted, I’ve been mainly doing PvP with my Bowblade, and little to zero PvE. 2H is strictly used for buffs, and I never attack with it.

    Oh in PvP 2h is king for sure:)

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    Vythri

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    How much does the 5% bonus damage of Hawk’s eye actually equate to in weapon damage terms?

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    Vythri

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    said on :

    Oh in PvP 2h is king for sure:)

    Yeah… I just hate being forced to use it. Maybe you should figure out a Bo’-Bo’ PvP build next :)

    It could probably be done with Alchemist, and Marksman…

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    Nosferatuzod

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    Vythri said on July 12, 2016 :

    How much does the 5% bonus damage of Hawk’s eye actually equate to in weapon damage terms?

    In this particular build it would be around 383 weapon damage fully buffed.

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    Nosferatuzod

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    Vythri said on July 12, 2016 :

    said on :

    Oh in PvP 2h is king for sure:)

    Yeah… I just hate being forced to use it. Maybe you should figure out a Bo’-Bo’ PvP build next

    It could probably be done with Alchemist, and Marksman…

    Hehe, I don’t PvP at all so I’m definitely the wrong man die the job:)

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    sAnn

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    Incredibly Interesting Nos, that parse is insane! Great job.

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    liv3mind

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    as usual, totally fuhkin out of the box, and totally fuhkin doable. rad.

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    Nosferatuzod

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    sAnn said on July 12, 2016 :

    Incredibly Interesting Nos, that parse is insane! Great job.

     

    liv3mind said on July 12, 2016 :

    as usual, totally fuhkin out of the box, and totally fuhkin doable. rad.

    Thanks! I’ll try to improve it further:)

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    Skatan

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    Hey Nosteratu, good job, man! I started playing ESO because of the freedom it gave me to basically be anything I wanted. But as you approach endgame, cookie cutter builds show up and if you want to stay competitive you better follow them. Seeing a bow build that is somewhat competitive with the melee builds is really cool and I congrat you for the effort and sharing ir with the community.

    That being said, can you provide some more info on your choice of Guard? How much better is it than Evil/Camo hunter or other assasination ability? Specially because you are double slotting it.

    Thank you!

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    Nosferatuzod

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    Skatan said on July 13, 2016 :

    Hey Nosteratu, good job, man! I started playing ESO because of the freedom it gave me to basically be anything I wanted. But as you approach endgame, cookie cutter builds show up and if you want to stay competitive you better follow them. Seeing a bow build that is somewhat competitive with the melee builds is really cool and I congrat you for the effort and sharing ir with the community.

    That being said, can you provide some more info on your choice of Guard? How much better is it than Evil/Camo hunter or other assasination ability? Specially because you are double slotting it.

    Thank you!

    So an alternative to guard would be to double slot evil hunter. Double slotting Evil Hunter would grant you an extra 87 weapon damage, a fairly small gain that wouldn’t impact much. Double slotting guard is done in order to indefinitely maintain the Minor Force buff. The way our rotation works we do not have 100% uptime on minor force from Light weight Trap, and it is a huge buff to damage.

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    numenor

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    Im a fan of the build, single target, its great, but what do you do for AoE situations like trash pulls in vMOL and more importantly, vDSA? I’ve been slotting power extraction in place of relentless focus on the vma bow bar, and its been sub-par for me.

     

    thanks

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