Nightblade Archer. And only Archer.

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  1. Avatar ImageBrianD

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    Orc Nightblade

    Total Posts: 204

    (16/6/14) OK I will explain a little further.. My build has altered dramatically so I have edited this post. Please try not to be confused by the replies in this thread. :)

    I now use 43 Stamina and 6 Health. I feel a little health is useful because without it, in certain situations, some players or PVE bosses will just outright and immediately kill you.

    My build hope this helps. I’m a Nightblade.

    The 2nd bar

    Just used for generating ultimate with the resto staff: Healing gives ulti points. If this isn’t for you, pay no attention to it, you could easily work in something else. I just like to build up Barrier before big battles :) The way it works is that when you crit. with a healing spell, you generate ulti points. So I use the assassination passive ‘Pressure Points’ along with Magelight to max out my crit chance :)

     

    Skills

    Dawnbreaker (gives +12% raw damage)

    Fear (a CC that cannot be blocked and then stops people blocking)

    Dark Cloak (removes DOTs – best skill against things like Oil in PvP)

    Immovable (stops most CC)

     

    Armour

    All the armour I wear, ALL have + Stamina glyphs on. Bypassing the soft cap is important. I must emphasise that using a set of ‘Hundings Rage’ to give the extra weapon damage is important.

    Other gear

    I wear the ‘Eagle Eye’ set which gives me +4m range. When combined with some of the Alliance Tree passives you get the max range of any player and IT IS FAR. lol. Our Snipes can now hit 52m it’s insane.

    Summary

    As you can see it’s a PvP ‘assassiny’ type build. You’ll probably notice that Nightblade doesn’t particularly matter – the skills don’t necessarily compliment each other. So long as you can take Venom Arrow and a fair amount of Stamina, you’ll be laughing.

    My general strategy is to open from stealth with a heavy attack (incidentally I critted for 1000 with a heavy attack last night, which is nice) and then proceed to spamming Venom Arrow and Light Attacks.

    The light attacks hit for around 275-390 and venom for the same. They ‘kind of’ work alongside each other.

     

    TL:DR  Take lots of Stamina, Dawnbreaker, Hundings Rage armour, spam Venom Arrow, and Light Attacks alongside it. :-)

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  2. Avatar ImageCaine

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    Imperial

    Total Posts: 22

    nice build and thanks for sharing,I love the bow.
    just a question, why 1 piece of heavy armor?

  3. Avatar ImageBrianD

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    Orc Nightblade

    Total Posts: 204

    You’re welcome, Caine. Thank you for your reply.

    I decided on 1 piece of heavy for a little added protection – particularly it would be the chest-piece, being the highest armour giver of them all. It kind of scales, e.g. where gloves/sleeves may give 1 armour; chest would give 3, and where light armour would give 1, heavy would give 4 etc. :)  Correct me if I’m wrong hehe. This build might change yet! :-)

    But I chose a piece of heavy also to eventually unlock “unstoppable”; and give unstoppable a little longer duration :)

    Swings and roundabouts. 

     

    Thank you very much for your question, dude! :)

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  4. Avatar ImageCaine

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    Imperial

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    Thanks for your reply :D

    personally i think i’d try 5 and 2 heavy for more armor, chest and maybe leggings. so you can retain the 5 pieces bonus of the MA, but with added armor and unstoppable during a bit more. However losing a bit of medium armor bonuses…

    Again, just thinking of possibilities lol.

  5. Avatar Imagetheunwarshed

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    Dunmer Dragonknight

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    combine Shadowy Disguise with Veil of Blades and Arrow Spray or Volley and i imagine you’d get even sicker damage.

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  6. Avatar ImageShaa

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    Imperial Nightblade

    The Noore

    Total Posts: 150

    First I think the Magnum Shot would be better if you wanna only focus on the bow, as it will allow you to keep a good amount of distance between you and your enemy. While you can just dodge to remove the snare.

    And remember that Veil of Blades is a aoe that spawns around you, is it really efficient if your objective is to stay far from your enemies ?

    Then I’d put Shadowy Disguise on the same bar as Focused Aim, as if you use Focused Aim, and then Shadowy Disguise before the arrow hits, it will crit. :)

  7. Avatar ImageBrianD

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    Orc Nightblade

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    Thanks for contributing!

    It is really great, and gets us thinking. Thank you. :-)

    Shaa: I felt the snare on draining shot would be better as magnum shot could cause problems in PvM being jolted into other mobs. Consuming darkness can be used at melee, then 2nd bar to retreat to range.

    theunwarshed: Shadowy disguise would be great on primary bar, giving more damage through crits, though maybe we would have to slot for more magicka; taking away damage at the same time. And aren’t crits already high with this build? :)

    Caine: 2 pieces of heavy leggings/chest would be cool! Just depends what we want from our characters. hehe :-)

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  8. Avatar ImageBrianD

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    Orc Nightblade

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    4% from assassination abilities slotted.
    18% from medium armour
    10% from bow

    and 10% from assassination’s ‘hemmorage’
    =
    42% crit. without Shadowy Disguise. (free) (+9% from khajit? see discussion below)
    70% crit. with Shadowy Disguise. (magicka)

    I’m also curious what the soft-cap on crits are; if anyone could enlighten us we would be grateful.

    I don’t know how much would be gained to swap something on main bar for Shadowy Disguise?

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  9. Avatar ImageDrakkon

    Apprentice

    Orc Dragonknight

    Orcs of Orsinium

    Total Posts: 49

    Do people not know that you can break stun at any time by clicking both mouse buttons at the same time? 12 second stun sounds great only if they dont know

     

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    A PvP guild with a little RP flavor (all Orc!) - Daggerfall Covenant , NA Mega-Server

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  10. Avatar ImageBrianD

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    Orc Nightblade

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    True. At the cost of stamina you can break stun in PvP. It’s more of another utility and distraction like Shadow Image – anything helps :-)

  11. Avatar ImageBrianD

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    Orc Nightblade

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    These responses are a great way to be greeted into Tamriel Foundry! Thanks a bunch, chaps!

    Remember you can look at the build on ESOCALC

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  12. Avatar ImageBrianD

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    Orc Nightblade

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    Update: I corrected the crit chance bonus from Khajit, as of course it only applies to melee.

    Does anyone know if the 15% damage from crits applies to bows?

    The wording is “Increases Critical rating for melee attacks by 1/2/3% and damage done by successful Critical Hits by 5/10/15%”  

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  13. Avatar ImageTeloran

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    Imperial Nightblade

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    BrianD said on March 18, 2014 :

    Update: I corrected the crit chance bonus from Khajit, as of course it only applies to melee.

    Does anyone know if the 15% damage from crits applies to bows?

    The wording is “Increases Critical rating for melee attacks by 1/2/3% and damage done by successful Critical Hits by 5/10/15%”

    As far as I know it even applies to magic. Also, your “melee” crit is actually your “physical” crit so I believe that it will apply to the bow as well. Bow is kind of weird as it gets many “melee” modifiers.

  14. Avatar ImageBrianD

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    Orc Nightblade

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    Teloran said on March 19, 2014 :

    As far as I know it even applies to magic. Also, your “melee” crit is actually your “physical” crit so I believe that it will apply to the bow as well. Bow is kind of weird as it gets many “melee” modifiers.

    VERY interesting to know! Many, many thanks, Teloran!!

  15. Member AvatarSawosz

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    BrianD said on March 18, 2014 :

    4% from assassination abilities slotted.
    18% from medium armour
    10% from bow

    and 10% from assassination’s ‘hemmorage’
    =
    42% crit. without Shadowy Disguise. (free) (+9% from khajit? see discussion below)
    70% crit. with Shadowy Disguise. (magicka)

    I’m also curious what the soft-cap on crits are; if anyone could enlighten us we would be grateful.

    I don’t know how much would be gained to swap something on main bar for Shadowy Disguise?

    AFAIK there is only hard cap on crit. Its 100%. Investing anything above isnt productive ;)

  16. Avatar ImageBrianD

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    Orc Nightblade

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    Sawosz said on March 19, 2014 :

    AFAIK there is only hard cap on crit. Its 100%. Investing anything above isnt productive

    Legend! Thanks! :-)

  17. Avatar ImageHrotha

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    Consuming Darkness Ultimate does not cloak your character in stealth. Only your team mates. At least it did not in combat, for me personally as caster of it.

    The Bow AoE is useless, no dmg what so ever.

    We can debate about Focused Attacks being useful since you mostly focus on 1v1 as a bow user. It takes some time to kill a Player in PvP with non-resource based attacks. And with all these buffs we have to keep in mind that they have a rather low uptime on them AND cost stamina, which then decreases the overall dmg again if we can not fully use all our arsenal. And ontop of that the stamina, all resource regen, is heavily decreased in combat. We have to keep this in mind for all escaping mechanics, since these have proven to be the most important thing in PvP and cost quite abit resources aswell: You are dead so fast, this is literally a priority to watch out that you can go stealth again and then sneak away. This being said as good as the guaranteed crit from the invis is, the debuff removal might be better in the end. It has absolutely no use when you make a succesful kill but then land on the respawn due to other players noticing you.

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  18. Avatar ImageBrianD

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    Orc Nightblade

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    Thank you for your input, Hrotha.

  19. Member Avatarocean

    Scamp

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    Hello. I had the same idea of build in mind. A NB bow only. However, looking the sorcer I had the feeling he was more adapted to an archer. More dps, mobility and good dynamic between dps mana/stamina. What is your feeling? Is the NB the class for an archer? What does it offer more than a sorcer?

     

  20. Avatar ImageBrianD

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    Orc Nightblade

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    ocean said on March 21, 2014 :

    Hello. I had the same idea of build in mind. A NB bow only. However, looking the sorcer I had the feeling he was more adapted to an archer. More dps, mobility and good dynamic between dps mana/stamina. What is your feeling? Is the NB the class for an archer? What does it offer more than a sorcer?

    Sounds good. But bear in mind basic weapon damage derives from Stamina. So your build would be more skill-based :-)