Need some build help

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    MomoHutt

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    Howdy there, so I like Orc’s and no this isn’t a fan post about Orc’s BUT that is not to say a post of Orc fandom would not be cool, ok down to brass tax I wanna play as an Orc but I have tried Twohanded, meh not really my thing, Tried duel wield, about the same thing there, Tried bow, just really cant get into it right now dunno why, One Hand and Shield I liked, BUT with a lack of a good AOE spamable it left me feeling highly disappointed in its lack of flexibility.

     

    So here is the question, Im a Sorc, how viable is an Orc mage? or Alternatively, is there a good stam skills for Sword & board that’s a spamable AOE? if not well refer to the first question lol, btw when I mean Viable I dont mean oh yeah this is Elder scrolls do what you want, I mean viable in top tier vet content or Group PvP, I really like Orc’s, I tried playing a Breton mage for awhile and while they where functionally great, I just wanted to be an Orc you know, Dunno why I am like obsessed with playing an Orc gosh darn it.

     

    So anyway yeah help? please maybe?

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    Malic

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    Given your definition of “viable” in my experience you have two answers:

    1. “Top tier Vet content” (your words): probably not, certainly as a orc sorc magi user you wouldn’t be sought out for runs, maybe for stam DPS or tanking but you said “mage” I am assuming that means Magi based.
    2. PVP: You’ll be able to get into most pugs in cyrodiil. Organized groups are usually guild based anyway. The pugs will take anyone, your build isn’t important.

    Good luck.

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    mrowmrif2

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    Punctuation is killing meeeeeeee.

    just google “fengrush orc stam sorc” and tweak his build a little for pve.  For soloing it will work fine.

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    MomoHutt

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    Luckily finding groups for vet content for me is easy as I have friends for that but its more a matter of how such a build would “handle” that content that I am concerned about, in terms of PvP like I said I have friends to help me anyhow, I mean I would honestly rather if I could to play a Stam build with 1h and shield, BUT I really cannot deal with having 0 AOE spamables, fighting mobs becomes so awkward when your forced to fight 1 enemy at a time, I end up feeling like I am doing nothing to help and completely relying on my group to support me with damage, so frustratiing, then there is doing content solo which I do sometimes which is just a chore and a half with no spamable AOE skills, I tried the Silver shards crossbow but with like 3-4k damage on the non focused enemy and a 3-3.k stam cost, its just not worth using imo unless i want to burn through my stamina like a fat guy burns through taco’s.

     

    Hence why I was asking about a Magi Orc Sorc :/

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    MomoHutt

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    mrowmrif2 said on January 9, 2017 :

    Punctuation is killing meeeeeeee.

    just google“fengrush orc stam sorc” and tweak his build a little for pve. For soloing it will work fine.

    Ok just googled that, so when I specifically said I didn’t like Two handed or Duel weild you tell me to use a build that uses Duel weild on front bar and Two handed on back bar, cus Logic? wow honestly flabbergasted why on earth you would recommend that to me given my OP.

     

    ALSO! you gripe about my punctuation yet your the person using Full Stops as comers hmmm totally makes sense there mate, now stop being a grammar troll cheers ^_^

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    Malic

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    MomoHutt said on January 9, 2017 :

    Luckily finding groups for vet content for me is easy as I have friends for that but its more a matter of how such a build would “handle” that content that I am concerned about, in terms of PvP like I said I have friends to help me anyhow, I mean I would honestly rather if I could to play a Stam build with 1h and shield, BUT I really cannot deal with having 0 AOE spamables, fighting mobs becomes so awkward when your forced to fight 1 enemy at a time, I end up feeling like I am doing nothing to help and completely relying on my group to support me with damage, so frustratiing, then there is doing content solo which I do sometimes which is just a chore and a half with no spamable AOE skills, I tried the Silver shards crossbow but with like 3-4k damage on the non focused enemy and a 3-3.k stam cost, its just not worth using imo unless i want to burn through my stamina like a fat guy burns through taco’s.

    Hence why I was asking about a Magi Orc Sorc :/

    Given your reply it would appear that there really isn’t a reply that is going to help you at all. Given you can find vet content easily and have people to help you in PvP youre likely best off just playing the toon and telling us how it works out.

    I don’t see a lot of Orc magi sorcs out there TBH, so the pool of people that might be able to help you I believe is pretty small.

     

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    MomoHutt

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    Malic said on January 9, 2017 :

    MomoHutt said on January 9, 2017 :

    Luckily finding groups for vet content for me is easy as I have friends for that but its more a matter of how such a build would “handle” that content that I am concerned about, in terms of PvP like I said I have friends to help me anyhow, I mean I would honestly rather if I could to play a Stam build with 1h and shield, BUT I really cannot deal with having 0 AOE spamables, fighting mobs becomes so awkward when your forced to fight 1 enemy at a time, I end up feeling like I am doing nothing to help and completely relying on my group to support me with damage, so frustratiing, then there is doing content solo which I do sometimes which is just a chore and a half with no spamable AOE skills, I tried the Silver shards crossbow but with like 3-4k damage on the non focused enemy and a 3-3.k stam cost, its just not worth using imo unless i want to burn through my stamina like a fat guy burns through taco’s.

    Hence why I was asking about a Magi Orc Sorc :/

    Given your reply it would appear that there really isn’t a reply that is going to help you at all. Given you can find vet content easily and have people to help you in PvP youre likely best off just playing the toon and telling us how it works out.

    I don’t see a lot of Orc magi sorcs out there TBH, so the pool of people that might be able to help you I believe is pretty small.

     

    Well just cus you can get groups for Vet content and pvp doesn’t mean the build would be in anyway good lol, I thought maybe somebody out there would be someone who experiments with builds and would have an understanding of its viability you know? last thing I want is a build that 90% of other magic builds could face roll.

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    mrowmrif2

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    MomoHutt said on January 9, 2017 :

    Ok just googled that, so when I specifically said I didn’t like Two handed or Duel weild you tell me to use a build that uses Duel weild on front bar and Two handed on back bar, cus Logic? wow honestly flabbergasted why on earth you would recommend that to me given my OP.

    ALSO! you gripe about my punctuation yet your the person using Full Stops as comershmmm totally makes sense there mate, now stop being a grammar troll cheers ^_^

    Im not trolling, im moderating… your one sentence paragraph garbage is unreadable, and therefore, it makes it difficult to respond to – and not just for me, but for everyone attempting to decipher what it is you actually want.  Which sounds like a miracle or a redesign of the game mechanics.

    The fact i told you to go use a 2h/dw build is because it will give you the aoe you are looking for……. you said yourself 1hs doesnt give you aoe, and hurricane is pretty much all you have on sorc for stam aoe otherwise.  You cant have your cake and eat it, too.  You have to use something else besides 1hs or you will not have aoe capability.  Sorry.

    Feel free to go 1hs/2h or 1hs/dw with feng’s gear, cp distribution and skillbars – as i said (go read what i wrote) >>>you will need to tweak it<<< to work for you since you want 1hs.  2h gives you a stamina heal and brutality buff and the spammable conal cleave morphs; dw gives you a fantastic aoe in tornado and a ranged attack that buffs…  if you dont like, i dont really care.

    furthermore, mag orc sorc…  i got nothin for you there, as it is probably one of the bottom 3 races possible for a mag sorc.  Either play stam and use a weapon set (maybe 1hs/bow will work for you if you farm up vigor and use crit surge for heals)… or just reroll an altmer and play a magicka toon instead.  It is not an “experiment to find something that is viable” situation… it is a basic understanding of game mechanics here.  Orc offers you zip for mag builds; you dont play mag sorc as an orc.

    Above all, i suggest you dont get lippy with people who are trying to help you because you dont like the answers.  Good luck, and may the odds be ever in your favor.  *listens for the cannon*

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    Malic

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    MomoHutt said on January 9, 2017 :

    Malic said on January 9, 2017 :

    Given your reply it would appear that there really isn’t a reply that is going to help you at all. Given you can find vet content easily and have people to help you in PvP youre likely best off just playing the toon and telling us how it works out.

    I don’t see a lot of Orc magi sorcs out there TBH, so the pool of people that might be able to help you I believe is pretty small.

    Well just cus you can get groups for Vet content and pvp doesn’t mean the build would be in anyway good lol, I thought maybe somebody out there would be someone who experiments with builds and would have an understandingof its viability you know? last thing I want is a build that 90% of other magic builds could face roll.

    No I dont know what you mean by viability as I tried to address it in my first post to you which you subsequently gave a rebuttal with a solution. So you answered your own question, yes its viable based on the context you presented. You wont have a problem finding vet content groups, and you have friends that will help you with PVP.

    In that context its perfectly viable. Also in open defiance of @mrowmrif2 I am being lippy, you arent trying to help me so I might avoid moderation (guy’s a bulldog) but I will try and help you with some really good life advice, of course you should be suspect of taking advice from people online but Im going to give it anyway.

    It’s not a lie, if you believe its true.

     

     

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    FrancisCrawford

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    One can use different weapons on different skill bars.

    1 of the three melee weapon choices has an utterly spammable AoE, regarded by many as the single best non-ultimate AoE skill in the game.

    Another one has a sort-of-spammable AoE.

    If the goal is to play an Orc who sometimes uses a sword-and-board — and who hence is a stamina character — but who also has a spammable AoE, I don’t see why there is a difficulty.

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    awein2319

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    MomoHutt said on January 9, 2017 :

    mrowmrif2 said on January 9, 2017 :

    Punctuation is killing meeeeeeee.

    just google“fengrush orc stam sorc” and tweak his build a little for pve. For soloing it will work fine.

    Ok just googled that, so when I specifically said I didn’t like Two handed or Duel weild you tell me to use a build that uses Duel weild on front bar and Two handed on back bar, cus Logic? wow honestly flabbergasted why on earth you would recommend that to me given my OP.

    ALSO! you gripe about my punctuation yet your the person using Full Stops as comershmmm totally makes sense there mate, now stop being a grammar troll cheers ^_^

    I get the preference thing, but your preference leads to zero opportunity. Your only “AOE” on 1HS is Deep Slash morph, and that isn’t even the better of the two morphs. So no, you can’t viably run an Stam Orc Sorc with decent AOEs without bow, DW or 2H. And Orc, as mentioned above, is useless as a magicka build for your end goals.

     

    Or does this build somewhat suit your Orc desires? http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/guidevideo-master-alchemist-stamina-sorcerer-solopvp-build-one-tamriel/

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