Elemental Fury – PvE DK Heavy Attack Build (HotR Ready) vHoF Approved

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    Silenus

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    thanks for the tips, I currently have 2 sweet songs and precise lightning maelstorm so I feel a bit underwhelmed without the penetration so hoping i can get those replaced!

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    Masel92

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    Added an off-balance focused variant of the build.

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    Silenus

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    what kind of rotation are you using on this off balance support set up?

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    Masel92: Still running your build as my main DPS character – it just melts everything. I will be tweaking my rotation and muscle memory on my Xbox target skeleton to take this into trials.

    A potential improvement on your rotation for the pure DPS build. I believe you do this sequence:

    Back Bar DOT -> Swap -> Blockade -> 1x Heavy -> Ember -> 1.5x Heavy -> Bar Swap ->  Repeat (using Eruption every second cycle)

    Now, I have found that I can cast Embers instantly if I cancel it with a bar swap. Because of this, I think this might work better:

    Back Bar DOT -> Swap -> Blockade -> 3x Heavy -> Embers with bar Bar Swap cancel ->  Repeat (using Eruption every second cycle)

     

    Have you done any parses with the Apprentice stone where you move your points from Elfborn to Elemental Expert? Since you are not deeply invested in Elfborn – it might be better to simply boost the baseline damage instead of the critical rate.

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    dragoriffique

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    Masel92 said on February 11, 2017 :

    DSGNjunkie said on February 10, 2017 :

    Oh Awesome I’d love to see how that setup parses. And yes, I was curious on the added damage to destructive clench from the master staff, but didn’t know if it’d be outweighed my poisons, other chants, etc. Looking forward to finding out! Thanks.

    I did a few parses with a sharpened master lightning staff (with & withut poisons), and you see the difference. The vMA lightning enchant is just too strong in this build, you losw around 4k dps oon the heavies, because spell damage is much more important for heavy attacks than max magicka and the crushing wall is hard to replace. I mean, 29k DPS is still decent given that it’s selfbuffed, so you can do most content with a master staff as well!

    At this screenshoot combat metrics 29k3 damage… is with guard active or not?

    Is with ele drain for breeche active yes or not?

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    Dolan

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    Thought I should mention that I just race changed from dark elf to high elf and it took 10 seconds off my skeleton time.  I’m still only at 30k so I’m working on passives and rotation to max it out, but thought this was worth noting.

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    Fussiesthorse4

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    Hmmm, The difference between dark elf and high isn’t THAT significant to take a full 10 seconds off. They are a few % difference from each other. I would assume that you have just improved upon your rotation as well and could have had a higher uptime on the off-balance effect, which can greatly improve your DPS.

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    Dolan

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    Quite possible

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    dragoriffique said on March 13, 2017 :

    Masel92 said on February 11, 2017 :

    I did a few parses with a sharpened master lightning staff (with & withut poisons), and you see the difference. The vMA lightning enchant is just too strong in this build, you losw around 4k dps oon the heavies, because spell damage is much more important for heavy attacks than max magicka and the crushing wall is hard to replace. I mean, 29k DPS is still decent given that it’s selfbuffed, so you can do most content with a master staff as well!

    At this screenshoot combat metrics 29k3 damage… is with guard active or not?

    Is with ele drain for breeche active yes or not?

    That is only with guard active, so no elemeental drain :)

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    Dolan said on March 14, 2017 :

    Thought I should mention that I just race changed from dark elf to high elf and it took 10 seconds off my skeleton time. I’m still only at 30k so I’m working on passives and rotation to max it out, but thought this was worth noting.

    The difference between the two is not that great. So i’d second the guess that you simply improved your rotation by now :)

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    Silenus said on March 12, 2017 :

    what kind of rotation are you using on this off balance support set up?

    The rotation is basically the same, i simply put elemental blockade on the back bar and put engulfing flames on the front bar. Cast elemental blockade last before going to front bar and bar swap cancel it into a heavy attack, then burning embers, HA and engulfing, half heavy and repeat :)

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    Masel92

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    Keep in mind that there is currently a bug that prevents more than one vMA Crushing Wall enchant to work on a Boss. So this build loses that big DPS-Bonus from it most of the Time when using it in Group Content… ZoS at it’s best :(

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    Masel92 said on March 15, 2017 :

    Keep in mind that there is currently a bug that prevents more than one vMA Crushing Wall enchant to work on a Boss. So this build loses that big DPS-Bonus from it most of the Time when using it in Group Content… ZoS at it’s best

    Yup. XB1 player here and now I can only run my DK in dungeons where the other dps aren’t using vMA staffs… RIP the power of this in a trial, I took it into an AA not knowing and your heavy ticks take a HUGE nerf.

     

    Thanks ZoS :'(

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    jamesmarston

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    @Masel92 Hi I’ve been following this build for quite a while now and decided to make an account on these forums so I can comment here lol. I’ve strictly been playing as a high elf mag DK tank for 95% of my ingame time(I’m 400cp atm) as I only really play as tank for my friends who introduced me to ESO so we could do 4 man dungeons together. Lately I’ve been transitioning over to dpsing so I can actually do more roles/content on my own, I’ve grinded for the typical standard grothdarr/bsw setup that a lot of mag DKs use but I just find it really difficult to manage that kind of playstyle/rotation. I thought I’d just give up and go back to tanking but then I came across this build(using the “No-grind DD setup”) which has really helped me significantly and ever since then I’m now been managing around 21k selfbuffed single target dps on target skeletons which is a huge achievement for me so thanks a lot for posting this.

    Anyways enough about my background I just have one question to ask if you wouldn’t mind answering.

    I’ve been grinding for the solo/VMA setup on the first post so I can attempt and grind out vMSA for the maelstrom weapons and have finally managed to acquire everything(except for the vMA weapons of course) but I have come to a bit of a crossroads at the moment as to which path I should take as I’ve also acquired some weapons from normal trials and already have a molag kena’s light divine helm. I’m unsure about how much the charged trait compares to sharpened for my vMA setup so I want to get some expert advice on which of the 2 following setups I should go with(I do plan on golding everything so I want to make sure I get this right).

    Setup 1:

    or

    Setup 2:

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    jamesmarston said on March 15, 2017 :

    @Masel92 Hi I’ve been following this build for quite a while now and decided to make an account on these forums so I can comment here lol. I’ve strictly been playing as a high elf mag DK tank for 95% of my ingame time(I’m 400cp atm) as I only really play as tank for my friends who introduced me to ESO so we could do 4 man dungeons together. Lately I’ve been transitioning over to dpsing so I can actually do more roles/content on my own, I’ve grinded for the typical standard grothdarr/bsw setup that a lot of mag DKs use but I just find it really difficult to manage that kind of playstyle/rotation. I thought I’d just give up and go back to tanking but then I came across this build(using the “No-grind DD setup”) which has really helped me significantly and ever since then I’m now been managing around 21k selfbuffed single target dps on target skeletons which is a huge achievement for me so thanks a lot for posting this.

    Anyways enough about my background I just have one question to ask if you wouldn’t mind answering.

    I’ve been grinding for the solo/VMA setup on the first post so I can attempt and grind out vMSA for the maelstrom weapons and have finally managed to acquire everything(except for the vMA weapons of course) but I have come to a bit of a crossroads at the moment as to which path I should take as I’ve also acquired some weapons from normal trials and already have a molag kena’s light divine helm. I’m unsure about how much the charged trait compares to sharpened for my vMA setup so I want to get some expert advice on which of the 2 following setups I should go with(I do plan on golding everything so I want to make sure I get this right).

    Setup 1:

    or

    Setup 2:

    I’d actually advise you try out another setup that should work great until you get the vMA weapons.

    Go 5 Spinners garments with a charged lightning staff on the front bar and any resto staff on the back bar, 5 UI with jewels and two armor and your kena piece. The problem with your charged IA staff is that the shock enchant basically gives the same buff as IA does. I will get some testing down on that setup tonight. My incentive to run the arena has gone down since I got my sharpened inferno staff and have everything else out of there too.

     

    Also I’d advise you to use flame lash with that setup for the additional burst heal and free damage on off-balance enemies. I’ll test it tonight and get back to you on that.

     

    The charged spinner staffs are really cheap (2-5k) and they give you the same as the aether 5 piece :) you miss out on the minor slayer, but you get additional 40% on heavy attacks and a stun at the final tick!

    I’m still trying to get rid of the restoration staff on the back bar, but DKs sadly don’t have a reliable heal over time…

     

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    dragoriffique

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    Masel92 said on March 16, 2017 :

    jamesmarston said on March 15, 2017 :

    @Masel92 Hi I’ve been following this build for quite a while now and decided to make an account on these forums so I can comment here lol. I’ve strictly been playing as a high elf mag DK tank for 95% of my ingame time(I’m 400cp atm) as I only really play as tank for my friends who introduced me to ESO so we could do 4 man dungeons together. Lately I’ve been transitioning over to dpsing so I can actually do more roles/content on my own, I’ve grinded for the typical standard grothdarr/bsw setup that a lot of mag DKs use but I just find it really difficult to manage that kind of playstyle/rotation. I thought I’d just give up and go back to tanking but then I came across this build(using the “No-grind DD setup”) which has really helped me significantly and ever since then I’m now been managing around 21k selfbuffed single target dps on target skeletons which is a huge achievement for me so thanks a lot for posting this.

    Anyways enough about my background I just have one question to ask if you wouldn’t mind answering.

    I’ve been grinding for the solo/VMA setup on the first post so I can attempt and grind out vMSA for the maelstrom weapons and have finally managed to acquire everything(except for the vMA weapons of course) but I have come to a bit of a crossroads at the moment as to which path I should take as I’ve also acquired some weapons from normal trials and already have a molag kena’s light divine helm. I’m unsure about how much the charged trait compares to sharpened for my vMA setup so I want to get some expert advice on which of the 2 following setups I should go with(I do plan on golding everything so I want to make sure I get this right).

    Setup 1:

    or

    Setup 2:

    I’d actually advise you try out another setup that should work great until you get the vMA weapons.

    Go 5 Spinners garments with a charged lightning staff on the front bar and any resto staff on the back bar, 5 UI with jewels and two armor and your kena piece. The problem with your charged IA staff is that the shock enchant basically gives the same buff as IA does. I will get some testing down on that setup tonight. My incentive to run the arena has gone down since I got my sharpened inferno staff and have everything else out of there too.

    Also I’d advise you to use flame lash with that setup for the additional burst heal and free damage on off-balance enemies. I’ll test it tonight and get back to you on that.

    The charged spinner staffs are really cheap (2-5k) and they give you the same as the aether 5 piece you miss out on the minor slayer, but you get additional 40% on heavy attacks and a stun at the final tick!

    I’m still trying to get rid of the restoration staff on the back bar, but DKs sadly don’t have a reliable heal over time…

    can have link screenshoot pls of set: Spinners.

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    jamesmarston

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    @masel92 I could swap out the shock trait on my IA staff for another enchantment like weapon damage or is that setup still not efficient?

    I went ahead and bought all the spinner set pieces and will give it a shot(managed to buy the only charged spinner staff listed on ttc lol) although I do wonder if I should be using a charged staff for my main bar in general over sharpened because the sharpened trait is BIS isn’t it? Wouldn’t elegant/spider cultist + UI + sharpened staff be better or is having a molag kena divine that good that I should be altering my setup around it for players who don’t have maelstrom weapons?

    sorry for all the questions btw lol

     

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    jamesmarston said on March 16, 2017 :

    @masel92 I could swap out the shock trait on my IA staff for another enchantment like weapon damage or is that setup still not efficient?

    I went ahead and bought all the spinner set pieces and will give it a shot(managed to buy the only charged spinner staff listed on ttc lol) although I do wonder if I should be using a charged staff for my main bar in general over sharpened because the sharpened trait is BIS isn’t it? Wouldn’t elegant/spider cultist + UI + sharpened staff be better or is having a molag kena divine that good that I should be altering my setup around it for players who don’t have maelstrom weapons?

    sorry for all the questions btw lol

    @dragoriffique

    if you don’t have the BiS version of the build go with the spinner+charged setup. It hits second hardest of the builds and gives your whole group the off-balance buff. Elegance and Spider cultist are fine, but on a DK, it’s either 2 Illambris/4 Aether/5 Spinner with  two charged staves with shock enchants on or 1 kena, 5 BSW and 5 Spinner with charged staves. Just remember to put a few cps in spell erosion.

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    Hi, tank’s for screenshoot set with bonus for each  numbers part.

     

    With you screenshoot with master staff (vDSA, you go for 29k3 dps.

    Possible look one video of that, pls

     

    Without last passive dual sword.

    With master staff sharpened, one sword precise, one sword sharpened

    5 BSW And undaunted 2 illambris

     

    I go for 29k5 with ele drain and guard

    You have said me just before you go 29k3 with guard, without ele drain (5280 pénétration)

    I have my abilities damage between 90/100 time up, and i go heavy attack

    As it is with a stick of the master and not maelstrom I switch 10 points of champion for the damage of the stick in initial damage and critical

    https://ibb.co/kRT7Fa

    https://ibb.co/kme3ov

    https://ibb.co/gzow8v

     

    Damage clench destructive is very little i think.

    Ithink more damage possible with Oblivion flame and replaced the lightning stick of the master by the lightning stick of the undaunted infiltrator (in sharp / precise / charged) (still need the drop ….)

    according to the group and the buffs of group. Waiting for that of maelstrom.

    With an enchantment that increases spell damage.
    What do you think.
    In any case contruction, clean with shield and master stick, crazy aoe, 63k3 second vHRC boss, and it is possible to do + depends on the buffs of the group …. (and I had latency)

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    dragoriffique

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    dragoriffique said on March 20, 2017 :

    Hi, tank’s for screenshoot set with bonus for each numbers part.

    With you screenshoot with master staff (vDSA, you go for 29k3 dps.

    Possible look one video of that, pls

    Without last passive dual sword.

    With master staff sharpened, one sword precise, one sword sharpened

    5 BSW And undaunted 2 illambris

    I go for 29k5 with ele drain and guard

    You have said me just before you go 29k3 with guard, without ele drain (5280 pénétration)

    I have my abilities damage between 90/100 time up, and i go heavy attack

    As it is with a stick of the master and not maelstrom I switch 10 points of champion for the damage of the stick in initial damage and critical

    https://ibb.co/kRT7Fa

    https://ibb.co/kme3ov

    https://ibb.co/gzow8v

    Damage clench destructive is very little i think.

    Ithink more damage possiblewith Oblivion flame and replaced the lightning stick of the master by the lightning stick of the undaunted infiltrator (in sharp / precise / charged) (still need the drop ….)

    according to the group and the buffs of group. Waiting for that of maelstrom.

    With an enchantment that increases spell damage.
    What do you think.
    In any case contruction, clean with shield and master stick, crazy aoe, 63k3 second vHRC boss, and it is possible to do + depends on the buffs of the group …. (and I had latency)

    ps: clench destructive evoled and level 3

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