Elemental Fury – PvE DK Heavy Attack Build (HotR Ready) vHoF Approved

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    Silenus

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    With the most recent patch notes and the changes to tri focus dmg anyone on pts able to tell how much it effects this build?

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    Masel92

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    Silenus said on May 2, 2017 :

    With the most recent patch notes and the changes to tri focus dmg anyone on pts able to tell how much it effects this build?

    not at all in single target :) They only reduced the aoe cleave damage by ~25%.

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    It just occurred to me that the Undaunted Infiltrator only comes in Robust jewelry (and is a medium set?!). Even with having to have Robust jewelry, it still outdamages Elegance?

    I am trying to maximize my build specifically for VMA Scores, and it seems to me like 1 Kena + 5 Spinners (armor) + 5 Elegance (3 Jewel/2 armor) would be the best setup possible. Am I mistaken?

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    Neighbor said on May 8, 2017 :

    @Masel92

    It just occurred to me that the UndauntedInfiltrator only comes in Robust jewelry (and is a medium set?!). Even with having to have Robust jewelry, it still outdamages Elegance?

    I am trying to maximize my build specifically for VMA Scores, and it seems to me like 1 Kena + 5 Spinners (armor) + 5 Elegance (3 Jewel/2 armor) would be the best setup possible. Am I mistaken?

    elegance is fine, but going for illambris and 3 moondancer/infallible is better than that. But you can do it with elegance too :) one kena would be the best 1-piece monster ofc. Going with any vMA Lightning on back and charged spinner or elegant staff on front bar is also good.
    Glückliches in there

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    Masel92 said on May 8, 2017 :

    Neighbor said on May 8, 2017 :

    @Masel92

    It just occurred to me that the UndauntedInfiltrator only comes in Robust jewelry (and is a medium set?!). Even with having to have Robust jewelry, it still outdamages Elegance?

    I am trying to maximize my build specifically for VMA Scores, and it seems to me like 1 Kena + 5 Spinners (armor) + 5 Elegance (3 Jewel/2 armor) would be the best setup possible. Am I mistaken?

    elegance is fine, but going for illambris and 3 moondancer/infallible is better than that. But you can do it with elegance too one kena would be the best 1-piece monster ofc. Going with any vMA Lightning on back and charged spinner or elegant staff on front bar is also good.
    Glückliches in there

    Thanks :)

    How do you think this build will do in Morrowind relative to other builds btw? It seems, if anything, this build is just going to get stronger with the new CPs while all other builds are going to be hurt by sustain changes. I just saw that BSW also got a nerf too, and that is what is inspiring me to finally make the switch from a classic build to this one.

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    Hoody

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    Can I just ask why Nirnhoned vMA staff for the vMA build? I assume it’s because the build uses Spinners… but if we have a sharpened vMA lightning staff, then can we swap Spinners out for something else (like Elegence, Undaunted etc)

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    @Masel92 Hey thanks for making this build. Got a sharp lightning vma staff the other day and thought immediately about it! Now I’m in the process of gathering some gear, missing only ilambris shoulders and BSW gloves.

    My question is (since you’ve done alot of gear testing): If things stay as is in the PTS is BSW still BiS? Or would IA, elegance or julianos beat it?

    Here’s the change: “Burning Spellweave: Decreased the proc chance to 15% from 20%, and decreased the Spell Damage bonus to 525 from 600.”

    Here’s hoping they don’t touch molten armaments!

     

    Edit: 1 more question! What do you think about using 2 BSW rings and go 5 light 2 medium on the body? Would gain magicka from the ring being Arcane, but lose HP (and 2% total magicka).

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    The BSW is something I’m actually testing on the PTS and will do more in the next days and then update the build for MW.

     

    So stay tuned! The build lost a bit of it’s power due to the CP changes, and I’m working on getting the most out of it!

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    @Masel92 will vma daggers Ench raise Lighting staff heavy (all tics)? :D

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    On ESO Live tonight they said they are nerfing heavy attack damage (and buffing resource return) and increasing light attack damage because heavy attacks return resources. They said light attacks for dps and heavy attacks for sustain.

    On the fence if it is a DK nerf or not, since molten armaments buff might keep heavy damage feasible. But it still will be a lot less than on live.

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    katorga said on May 12, 2017 :

    On ESO Live tonight they said they are nerfing heavy attack damage (and buffing resource return) and increasing light attack damage because heavy attacks return resources. They said light attacks for dps and heavy attacks for sustain.

    On the fence if it is a DK nerf or not, since molten armaments buff might keep heavy damage feasible. But it still will be a lot less than on live.

    Yep, we’ll see how much it actually is… Might be the end of this build in competitive PvE content. We’ll see on Monday.

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    Silenus

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    Ya when I read that I was bummed but they also said they were speeding the heavy attack channel so even if it is lowered may be able to squeeze in another attack on the front bar making up for the lower heavy attack dmg

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    Updated the CP distribution for Morrowind.

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    Silenus

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    with the 15% reduction to lightning staff dmg hows the damage looking?

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    Damage is still good. This is done without guard and with a not working minor slayer, so you can add a flat 10.5% damage. I’m still trying to optimise the CP distribution. The main reason why the damage is lower is the reduction of the elemental expert tree. The 15% nerf  to heavy attacks is barely noticeable due to the buff to staff expert. elemental expert got reduced by 10% and it was the main investment tree. Builds that use a spammable can simply put points in master at arms to try to compensate it, but that is quite big a nerf to ALL builds that hurts the damage probably just as much as the sustain reductions.
    So this build mainly benefitted from thaumaturge and ele expert, as it’s a nearly pure dot build. Now that investing in those trees has strongly diminishing returns, you don’t have anything to compensate it with. That is why I’m currently experimenting with a non spinner build that simply uses points in spell erosion.
    Will do more in three weeks when I’m back.

    Silenus said on May 18, 2017 :

    with the 15% reduction to lightning staff dmg hows the damage looking?

     

     

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    Hi
    I play a dunmer magicka dk and wanna try your off balance build, it sounds really great!
    But I am still unsure with a few skills and sets, maybe you can help me out?

    As a dunmer I get 7% more flame damage on top of the 6% world in ruins passive and the 10% from engulfing flames, so I thought of using a backbar inferno staff to improve the weaving damage

    With the ultimate I am unsure, too. Thought of standard of might, because of all the great buffs it provides: Good damage, synergy to the group, and an additional 15% damage done and 15% less damage taken

    Regarding sets: in your off balance build you dont use UI, wont it be benefical to swap out Ilambris for it (thought you mention Ilambris 2k dps and UI about 6k), dont know if moondancer/aether adds 4k damage… Maybe somethink like 1piece kena, 4pieces UI, 5pieces spinner + a charged lightning UI staff  or vma staff

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    jamesmarston

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    @Masel92 I’m just wondering if you plan on updating this build or if you plan on releasing any other setups for magDK’s? thanks

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    Updated for Horns of the Reach.

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    Masel92 said on July 20, 2017 :

    Updated for Horns of the Reach.

     

    Am I reading right that all of your builds suggest a non sharpened vma staff now?  Rip my sharp staff, and rip my 2 sharp undaunted swords lol.  I have a sharp ia lightning, but not charged.  Sad day.

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    Dolan said on July 20, 2017 :

    Masel92 said on July 20, 2017 :

    Updated for Horns of the Reach.

    Am I reading right that all of your builds suggest a non sharpened vma staff now? Rip my sharp staff, and rip my 2 sharp undaunted swords lol. I have a sharp ia lightning, but not charged. Sad day.

    I previously went with the Sweetsong option and compensated using Spell Erosion, still took a while; but sorry to hear about your two sharpened swords. Should still keep your swords though, might save you some time in the future, if they are ever back in vogue.

     

    @Masel92

    Where it says non-sharpened vMA lightning backbar, it is just to say any trait so that you don’t over-penetrate, right? So a sharpened staff may not necessarily add anything, but it doesn’t adversely affect the integrity of the build.

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