ByTheBeardofZeus – Stamplar DPS Guide – Morrowind and HoTR Edition

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    ConnorWoods

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    And im not sure, this is my highest hitting rotation I made ages ago and I assume old me thought it through so I’ll trust myself

     

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    IzakiBrotherSs

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    Oooooooh right, okay I get it. You start with Trap > Hail > Caltrops and then you refresh Trap after the PotL :D

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    JKith

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    Awesome build, and responsiveness to keeping it updated, thanks so much.

    I’ve always wanted to get my stamplar to do well, so I’m excited about this build. Just need to get caltrops and I should be good to go. Super happy to hear I don’t need to farm another Maelstrom bow in a different trait for Hotr patch!

    Quick question on survivabilty,.. would you say that cloak and focus are enough even if your healer isn’t the best? Or would you swap in vigor or something else if you’re working with a below average healer?

    - The White Mage Oramago

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    ConnorWoods

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    Hey, glad you enjoyed it! Sharpened is definitely still usable :D

    Cloak is an absolute must have for trials, and I don’t really run the rune anymore, I find I move too much and that it doesn’t stack with circle of protection meaning it’s a little meh now that you don’t get major mending from it.

    I usually take off the rune now and put vigor on, however be prepared for massive sustain issues if you keep hitting it. I just keep it as an emergency “oh shit” button or if someone’s taking damage while ressing a healer or something.

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    JKith

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    I have a quick question on rotation,… for your “infinite” rotation you HA 4 times on the DW bar. For your “burst power” rotation, you don’t HA at all.

    How many times do you find yourself needing to HA on your DW bar normally to self sustain? Or do you just HA when your resources are low and not bother with keeping the same HA rotation all the time?

    - The White Mage Oramago

    ”The elements that permeate all living things is the elemental source of my power.”

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    ConnorWoods

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    Heya, the guide needs updating, if the fight lasts longer than 50 seconds you have to heavy attack.

    The “infinite” sustain rotation is needed 9.9/10 times. I did some testing a while back and found that actually you cover the loss of DPS from heavys with off balance in raids giving you 35% more HA damage.

    Obviously always open with the burst rotation but after that I keep to the HA one.

    latest example can be found here;

    towards the end Jab alot and spend any stamina you have saved up for maximum deeps.

    ALSO PLEASE do not wait until your resources are gone before you start to heavy. You’ll leave yourself in a pretty horrible situation and anywhere that requires blocking, bashing or breaking free, you’re ripperoni.

    Using the HA Rotation with a little blocking I managed to sustain 11 minutes on a Redguard if I heavy attacked Rending slashes, before I was completely out. If you ever find yourself out of stamina cast everything on your bow bar and then just heavy 6-7 times on your DW bar to get 15-16k back, wait for a potion and you should be all good again. Pro tip: repent any noob team mates who die ;)

    As always thanks for your good question and I hope you liked the guide:)

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    JKith

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    What enchants are you running on your DW Main and off-hand in HotR?

     

     

    - The White Mage Oramago

    ”The elements that permeate all living things is the elemental source of my power.”

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    JKith

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    On a different note,…. you’re saying in HotR patch, that Torug’s Pact 5 piece bonus is so strong, that the 2, 3 and 4 piece bonus, being Spell Damage, Max Health and Spell Resistance which has nothing to do with Stamina DPS outshines Hunding’s Rage? If so, that’s crazy impressive!

     

    - The White Mage Oramago

    ”The elements that permeate all living things is the elemental source of my power.”

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    ConnorWoods

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    Always run infused on the main hand infused dagger, weapon damage on the off hand weapon :)

    And yes Torug’s pact is better than Hunding’s and War Machine at the minute however I think once ZoS catches on it’ll get nerfed again heavily so I’m hesitant to gold any daggers yet, but hey it might.

    I love that Torug’s has the spell resistance passives, it’s going to be 3000 spell resistance on HoTR and the HP passive is amazing, with 1 heavy chest you’re looking at 17.8/18k hp.

     

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    JKith

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    Poison enchant on the infused dagger right?

     

    I hope they don’t nerf it, would really like the extra hp….

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    ConnorWoods

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    Yes poison enchant on the infused. The reason you don’t run the weapon damage on infused is because there’s no benefit to procing it twice in quick succession, you’ll just refresh the duration.

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    Sunah

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    So you run dw daggers. Main hand infused with poison enchant. Off hand precise or sharpened with weapon damage enchant. What about the bow?

     

    Edit – This question is for the Hotr update.

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    ConnorWoods

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    Bow is sharpened or nirnhoned in full debuffed raids.

     

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    Nosferatuzod

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    Can you elaborate how Torugs pact is going to be superior to Hundings please? It doesnt make much sense to me…

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    ConnorWoods

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    Watch the video @nosferatuzod

    You hit higher with Torugs pact at its current level than hundings rage by about 1k.

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    ConnorWoods said on July 29, 2017 :

    Watch the video @nosferatuzod

    <iframe src=”https://www.youtube.com/embed/nCP92CivU2Q?feature=oembed” width=”500″ height=”281″ frameborder=”0″ allowfullscreen=”allowfullscreen”></iframe>

    You hit higher with Torugs pact at its current level than hundings rage by about 1k.

    So there is a bug with it? This is from PTS? Do you by chance have a 6 mil video? 3 mil is way too bursty

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    ConnorWoods

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    No bug as far as I’m aware, infused got buffed 10% and I’m using it on both daggers. The change to torugs means there’s barely any cooldown on poison enchant. I don’t have a 6m video available no but the 1k gap seems to follow whenever the targets Hp goes

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    Nosferatuzod

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    ConnorWoods said on July 29, 2017 :

    No bug as far as I’m aware, infused got buffed 10% and I’m using it on both daggers. The change to torugs means there’s barely any cooldown on poison enchant. I don’t have a 6m video available no but the 1k gap seems to follow whenever the targets Hp goes

    With Hundings:

    Base enchant value – 348, infused (1.3x) uptime (lets say 70%) – total average weapon damage – 316.

    With Torugs:

    Base enchant value – 348, infused (1.3x), torugs (1.3x) uptime (lets say 100%) – total average weapon damage – 588

    588- 316 = 272 weapon damage.

    So with torugs and 2 infused daggers you are losing 28 weapon damage, 1096 stam and 14.24% crit. My psn enchant on a 6 dummy is usually around 2.2k dps. Your video shows it to be 6.4k. Now keep in mind that since heavies will now proc psn enchants my psn enchant dps should also rise. So the choice is 4k dps from psn enchant or 14.2% crit  27 wep damage and max stam. I think in a raid setting hundings will without a doubt wreck torugs. Your main dps gain comes fron the psn enchant. Anytime you have to block or move out for a mechanic or miss a weave your damage will tank. Especially in trials like HoF and vMoL this will be a huge damage loss. Hundings buffs your DoTs which stays on target the entire time and thus does not get affected by movement like torugs is.

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    ConnorWoods

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    I never intended to make torugs my main set and don’t plan to update the guide to say so, however it is now a viable alternative. The reason I don’t use it in raids is because to get that dps on the poison enchant is has to proc ALOT so it runs out of charges too fast. However that being said it’s gonna be usable for pledge runs, DSA and maybe some trials without movement, vAA being my main guess.

    I will test it just to be safe in raid environments when it goes live.

     

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    JKith

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    FYI: Directly from ZOS,

     

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    Hi folks,

    Just a heads-up that there is indeed a bug with Torug’s Pact that will be fixed in the next PTS patch. You can expect to see the damage output go back down to a more reasonable amount.

    - The White Mage Oramago

    ”The elements that permeate all living things is the elemental source of my power.”

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