Blaze's Stam Sorc build presented by Nos (Update 12 ready)

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    Nosferatuzod

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    Disclaimer: This build was originally conceived by my dear friend fire0, but since he dislikes to post online and I think that the build is great to help those trying to stam sorc well, I decided to post it for him:)

     

    Race:

    1). Redguard

    2). Khajit

    Both options are viable. While the highest damage output race for this build is a Khajit, Redguard’s sustain allows us to wear more dps sets and in the end offer more DPS without relying on shards or repentance.

    Attributes:

    All in Stamina

    Food:

    Health and Stamina

    Mundus:

    Thief and Shadow

    Champion Point Distribution:

    Blue tree:

    Mighty – 80; Thaum – 65; Precise Strikes – 42,

    Red tree:

    Points evenly across Hardy, Thick Skinned and Elemental Defender

    Green tree:

    100 into reduced cost, the rest into regen.

    Gear choice:

    7/7 Medium Divines

    5 TBS

    2 Velidreth/Kragh

    3 Vicious Ophidian Jewelry

    1 Sharpened vMA Dagger

    1 Sharpened vMA Axe

    1 Sharpened vMA Bow

    All Armor with Stamina Enchants. All Jewelry Robust with Weapon damage enchants.

    Bar Setup:

    Main Bar (Dual Wield): Rearming Trap, Rending Slashes, Rapid Strikes, Bound Armaments, Steel Tornado. Ultimate – Thrive on Chaos

    Offbar (Bow): Bound Armaments, Crit Surge, Hurricane, Endless Hail, Poison Injection. Ultimate – Flawless Dawnbreaker.

    Rotation:

    Crit Surge>Potion

    Step 1: Rearming Trap>Bar Swap

    Step 2A: Endless Hail>Hurricane>Poison Injection>Bar Swap

    Step 2B: Endless Hail>Poison Injection>Hurricane>Bar Swap

    Step 3: Rapid Strikes>Weave>Rending Slashes>Weave>Rapid Strike>Weave>Thrive on Chaos>Weave>Rapid Strike + Medium Weave x 4 (5 if no Thrive on Chaos used)>Rapid Strikes>Weave>Rearming Trap>Bar Swap

    Restart from Step 2B

    Questions:

    1. Why Velidreth?

    Highest DPS gain for a stam user that is possible on a two piece set (Stormfist is a possible alternative). Can crit up to 32k+ with full raid buffs. Use this 2 piece if you have full target penetration (can only happen on boss fights with debuffs such as in Nightmothers, Sunderflame, ETC…)

    2. Why Kragh? 

    Kragh offers the highest damage gain in groups where full target penetration is not achieved. The 1 piece on it is the strongest 1 piece for a stam user to have and offers a whopping 3.8% DPS increase on a non fully penetrated target. In addition its damage is quiet good as well.

    3. Why reapply trap before it runs out?

    Because the minor force plus the increased damage from its buffed DoT is a huge DPS loss if we lose seconds on them both.

    4. Why Thrive on Chaos?

    The new dual wield ultimate by itself does high AoE damage and can be empowered by vMA weapons. It also heals the user and leaves a 8 second DoT which can proc monster helm effects, thus synergizing well with our setups. But here is the MOST IMPORTANT kicker – it increases the damage of ALL of our abilities by 5% for each target hit up to 30%. So in essence it serves as a mini DK banner. This is a MUST HAVE.

    5. Why not Stormfist?

    Stormfist is a viable alternative and @FearTurbo has a good build that utilizes it in its DPS rotation, but in my raid group ourr penetration is optimized in such a way where Kragh gives the most benefit on bosses. Additionally Kragh is BiS on trash regardless of group composition.

    6. Proof of Concept?

    http://imgur.com/a/kqjw6

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    Duckbutta

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    Congrats on getting around to making a Stam Sorc build, it looks great!

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    Nosferatuzod

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    Duckbutta said on September 28, 2016 :

    Congrats on getting around to making a Stam Sorc build, it looks great!

    Fire OP

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    worhello

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    Interesting build! Going to need to try and get VO jewelry ASAP!

     

    Given that this build has very low regen anyway, would it be viable to put points into Tenacity rather than Mooncalf? It’s an idea I got from an Alcast video for a StamDK.

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    Nosferatuzod

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    worhello said on September 30, 2016 :

    Interesting build! Going to need to try and get VO jewelry ASAP!

    Given that this build has very low regen anyway, would it be viable to put points into Tenacity rather than Mooncalf? It’s an idea I got from an Alcast video for a StamDK.

    As a redguard StamSorc there should not be any regen issues imho.

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    Psiberzerker

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    A question on Gear:  What Aspects (Sharpened, Impenetrable…) on the various items.  I see you have weapons, and Medium Armor with Max Stamina (And I assume Feat Cost discount) enchantments, but you’re not sticking with Training once you max out the Armor, right?  So, assuming we craft a set, what should we Research/Craft, or what dropsets should we be looking for to optimize the rest of the build?

    Unless there’s something numerically superior (I know about) I generally run Divines.  That’s the easiest to change without crafting new gear, just fast travel to the Warrior to increase your Power, all those Divines add to the effect of that boon.

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    Everything above is likely Opinion, and/or subject to change. 

    I mostly play ”Gofasta” Orcish berserkers in Red armor.  (Alluding to WH40K.)

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    worhello

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    Hmm, would there be anything else you could put the extra green CP into rather than regen? Maybe reduced cost of break free and dodge roll?

    Nosferatuzod said on September 30, 2016 :

    worhello said on September 30, 2016 :

    Interesting build! Going to need to try and get VO jewelry ASAP!

    Given that this build has very low regen anyway, would it be viable to put points into Tenacity rather than Mooncalf? It’s an idea I got from an Alcast video for a StamDK.

    As a redguard StamSorc there should not be any regen issues imho.

     

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    Nosferatuzod

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    Psiberzerker said on September 30, 2016 :

    A question on Gear: What Aspects (Sharpened, Impenetrable…) on the various items. I see you have weapons, and Medium Armor with Max Stamina (And I assume Feat Cost discount) enchantments, but you’re not sticking with Training once you max out the Armor, right? So, assuming we craft a set, what should we Research/Craft, or what dropsets should we be looking for to optimize the rest of the build?

    Unless there’s something numerically superior (I know about) I generally run Divines. That’s the easiest to change without crafting new gear, just fast travel to the Warrior to increase your Power, all those Divines add to the effect of that boon.

    Hey I just added it to the build. You always want to run all divines traits in PvE

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    Nosferatuzod

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    worhello said on September 30, 2016 :

    Hmm, would there be anything else you could put the extra green CP into rather than regen? Maybe reduced cost of break free and dodge roll?

    Nosferatuzod said on September 30, 2016 :

    As a redguard StamSorc there should not be any regen issues imho.

    Thats entirely up to you, I keep this same CP on all my stam toons, but if you feel like you would benefit more from those other options go for it. Really the only CP distribution thats really vital is the blue one and the reduced skills cost from the green tree.

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    Nosferatuzod said on September 30, 2016 :

    Hey I just added it to the build. You always want to run all divines traits in PvE

    Oh good.  Yeah, that’s what I figured.  It’s just so much easier to hit up the Lover for some Magresist then going beack to the crafting station or the bank to play dressup.  Especially for PvE/Dundeon Running, because the Warrior is great for DPS, but if I’m hitting one with all Archers, and find myself getting pincushioned, I can go to the Lady, then if the next place is mostly Inferno mages I can go with the Lover.  For examples, the base build is DPS, obviously, but Divines gives you a lot more leway fine tuning for the situation (If you know what to expect) than any other effect.  Beats filling up your Inventories with different gear/Runes to respec, and a lot less expensive, too.

     

    Thoughts on Armor Sets?

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    Everything above is likely Opinion, and/or subject to change. 

    I mostly play ”Gofasta” Orcish berserkers in Red armor.  (Alluding to WH40K.)

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    Thanks for the shout out ^_^

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    Nosferatuzod

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    FearTurbo said on September 30, 2016 :

    Thanks for the shout out ^_^

    :)

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    Nosferatuzod

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    Psiberzerker said on September 30, 2016 :

    Nosferatuzod said on September 30, 2016 :

    Hey I just added it to the build. You always want to run all divines traits in PvE

    Oh good. Yeah, that’s what I figured. It’s just so much easier to hit up the Lover for some Magresist then going beack to the crafting station or the bank to play dressup. Thoughts on Armor Sets?

    TBS is king

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    Nosferatuzod said on September 30, 2016 :

    TBS is king

    This sounds like Dogma, but rather than delve into that debate, while you think it goes without saying, there’s no telling who will read this when.  So, like Divines, I agree with you on that, but for those not in the know (Who might be searching forums for Build advice) it doesn’t go without saying.

    Just saying.

    Everything above is likely Opinion, and/or subject to change. 

    I mostly play ”Gofasta” Orcish berserkers in Red armor.  (Alluding to WH40K.)

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    Nosferatuzod

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    Psiberzerker said on September 30, 2016 :

    Nosferatuzod said on September 30, 2016 :

    TBS is king

    This sounds like Dogma, but rather than delve into that debate, while you think it goes without saying, there’s no telling who will read this when. So, like Divines, I agree with you on that, but for those not in the know (Who might be searching forums for Build advice) it doesn’t go without saying.

    Just saying.

    Im so confused…but I list TBS as the 5 piece set in the build. What did I make unclear?

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    Psiberzerker

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    Nosferatuzod said on September 30, 2016 :

    Im so confused…but I list TBS as the 5 piece set in the build. What did I make unclear?

    Nothing, I’m blind?  It’s a very short line.  I missed it, MM.

     

    Maybe expand it to Twice-Born Star for visibility?  Just a suggestion, and not everyone is going to know what that stands for.  5 TBS isn’t particularly clear.

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    Everything above is likely Opinion, and/or subject to change. 

    I mostly play ”Gofasta” Orcish berserkers in Red armor.  (Alluding to WH40K.)

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    liv3mind

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    what is twice born star? is that one of the new sets? or is up updated from an old crappy one?

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    Psiberzerker

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    It’s the Craglorn dropset.  Lets you have 2 Mundus boons, with 5 pieces.

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    Everything above is likely Opinion, and/or subject to change. 

    I mostly play ”Gofasta” Orcish berserkers in Red armor.  (Alluding to WH40K.)

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    Nosferatuzod

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    liv3mind said on September 30, 2016 :

    what is twice born star? is that one of the new sets? or is up updated from an old crappy one?

    It’s gives you +100 to get gud

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    Nosferatuzod

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    Psiberzerker said on September 30, 2016 :

    It’s the Craglorn dropset.

    It drops in craglorn? Dang does it come in CP 160?;)

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