Nos's "Aoe King" Stam Sorc build (HotR DLC ready)

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    Nosferatuzod

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    EDITS:

    08/15/2017 – Updated for Horns of the Reach DLC

    09/09/2017 – Updated rotation

    Race:

    Redguard

    Attributes:

    All in Stamina

    Food:

    Health and Stamina

    Mundus:

    Warrior

    Champion Point Distribution:

    Blue tree:

    Mighty 49, Thaum 51, Precise Strikes 51, Master at Arms 20, Piercing 49.

    Red tree:

    Quick Recovery 19, Elemental Defender 49, Hardy 49, Thick Skinned 37, Iron Clad 44, Spell Shield 22

    Green tree:

    Warlord 51, Sprinter 16, Mooncalf 56, Tenacity 49, Tumbling 28, Shadow Ward 20

    Gear choice (Solo Stam DPS in Raid):

    7/7 Medium Divines

    5 Twice Fanged Serpent

    2 Velidreth

    5 Night Mother’s Gaze

    Use the following weapon traits:

    1 Infused Dagger (Poison enchant) – in Main Hand

    1 Precise Dagger (Weapon damage enchant) – in Off-Hand

    1 Nirn vMA Bow

    All Armor with Stamina Enchants. All Jewelry Robust with Weapon damage enchants.

    Bar Setup:

    DW Bar: Bound Armaments, Rending Slashes, Rearming trap, Blade Cloak, Hurricane. Ultimate: Flawless Dawnbreaker

    Bow Bar: Bound Armaments, Poison Injection, Endless Hail, Caltrops, Focused Aim. Ultimate: Ballista.

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    Rotation:

    Step 1: Rearming Trap>Bar Swap>LA>Endless Hail>LA>Poison Injection>LA>Razor Caltrops>LA>Focused Aim>LA>Ballista>Bar Swap

    Step 2: LA>Rending Slashes>HA>Blade Cloak>HA>Hurricane>HA>Rearming Trap>Bar Swap

    Step 3: LA>Endless Hail>LA>Poison Injection>LA>Razor Caltrops>LA>Focused Aim>Bar Swap

    Step 4: HA>Rending Slashes>HA>Blade Cloak>HA>Hurricane>HA>Rearming Trap>Bar Swap

    Restart from Step 1

     

    Rotation video

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmTT96DcQH8&feature=youtu.be

    Questions:

    1. Why Velidreth? 

    Kragh offers the highest damage gain in groups where full target penetration is not achieved, because the 1 piece on it is the strongest one-piece for a stam user to have and offers a 2.97% DPS increase on a non fully penetrated target. Velidreth however works best if full penetration is achieved. In addition its proc hits certain enemies (Manticora is an example) multiple times. My raid group will be running an optimized buff system so I am running Velidreth…if the penetration is not capped then Kragh is best in slot for most fights.

    2. Why TFS and NMG?

    Penetration is the best damage buffing stat to use when building a character. In a non optimized raid those two sets will perform best. Should your group already run NMG your options open up quite a bit, but are all reliant on what gear is available to you. Vicious Ophidian, Hundings Rage, Leviathan and Sunderflame are all Viable options, the trick is to be aware of how to optimize and not go over the penetration cap. Below is a list of all the possible debuffs a group can have up, keep in mind that during a trial you most likely will not have a 100% uptime on every single of these, so try to pen cap yourself with that expectation.

     

    Nightmother’s Gaze – 2580

    Alkosh – 3010

    Sunderflame – 3440

    Major Fracture – 5280

    Minor Fracture – 1320

    Crusher Enchant – 1622

    Infused Crusher Enchant – 2108

    3. Why Warrior Mundus?

    Warrior seems to be coming out on top for most stam builds in this DLC. By slotting Dawnbreaker on the front bar we are getting around 552 weapon damage from that Mundus, which is quite a large chunk of our dps. Our crit is too high to take advantage of the Thief stone and too low to make Shadow Mundus be better than Warrior. Lover is a choice to run, but the DPS gain from warrior is almost exactly the same and if you have buff sets in a raid Lover quickly loses its power.

    4. Why double dagger?

    Proc rate for the Axe passive is too low to warrant using it, and daggers scale better with raid buffs.

    5. Why Nirn Bow?

    Since we are shooting for a pen capped scenario we have infused/nirn and precise to choose from. Precise is nice but Nirn is a lot better. Nirn not only increases the base of your Hail damage, it also buffs your weapon by 200 wep damage which is huge for all your skills. Running Nirn allows your hail to start ticking and go through the lower part of its damage buffed, once you bar swap, the Infused trait off the main hand takes over and gives your Hail a higher ceiling to reach.

    6. Why Ballista and not Rend?

    Rend outparses Ballista by a few hundred (300) DPS, however the loss of Flawless on the front bar is a much bigger DPS loss. I use rend on fights like the Fabrication Comittee where multiple bosses are present, but Ballista is better overall. Especially when combined with the Warrior Mundus, Flawless front bar becomes a must.

    7. Why Focused Aim?

    Focused Aim helps keep minor fracture uptime on target and does quite a bit of damage.

     8. Parses: 

    http://imgur.com/a/g4ySz

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geqNHK1Ug0o&feature=youtu.be

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFqu8mr-8oo&feature=youtu.be

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX99qtMnH7c&feature=youtu.be

    https://imgur.com/a/9PHLl

    https://imgur.com/a/OhJE0

    https://imgur.com/a/QttBl

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    Duckbutta

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    Congrats on getting around to making a Stam Sorc build, it looks great!

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    Nosferatuzod

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    Duckbutta said on September 28, 2016 :

    Congrats on getting around to making a Stam Sorc build, it looks great!

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    worhello

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    Interesting build! Going to need to try and get VO jewelry ASAP!

     

    Given that this build has very low regen anyway, would it be viable to put points into Tenacity rather than Mooncalf? It’s an idea I got from an Alcast video for a StamDK.

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    Nosferatuzod

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    worhello said on September 30, 2016 :

    Interesting build! Going to need to try and get VO jewelry ASAP!

    Given that this build has very low regen anyway, would it be viable to put points into Tenacity rather than Mooncalf? It’s an idea I got from an Alcast video for a StamDK.

    As a redguard StamSorc there should not be any regen issues imho.

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    Psiberzerker

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    A question on Gear:  What Aspects (Sharpened, Impenetrable…) on the various items.  I see you have weapons, and Medium Armor with Max Stamina (And I assume Feat Cost discount) enchantments, but you’re not sticking with Training once you max out the Armor, right?  So, assuming we craft a set, what should we Research/Craft, or what dropsets should we be looking for to optimize the rest of the build?

    Unless there’s something numerically superior (I know about) I generally run Divines.  That’s the easiest to change without crafting new gear, just fast travel to the Warrior to increase your Power, all those Divines add to the effect of that boon.

    Everything above is likely Opinion, and/or subject to change. 

    I mostly play ”Gofasta” Orcish berserkers in Red armor.  (Alluding to WH40K.)

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    worhello

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    Hmm, would there be anything else you could put the extra green CP into rather than regen? Maybe reduced cost of break free and dodge roll?

    Nosferatuzod said on September 30, 2016 :

    worhello said on September 30, 2016 :

    Interesting build! Going to need to try and get VO jewelry ASAP!

    Given that this build has very low regen anyway, would it be viable to put points into Tenacity rather than Mooncalf? It’s an idea I got from an Alcast video for a StamDK.

    As a redguard StamSorc there should not be any regen issues imho.

     

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    Psiberzerker said on September 30, 2016 :

    A question on Gear: What Aspects (Sharpened, Impenetrable…) on the various items. I see you have weapons, and Medium Armor with Max Stamina (And I assume Feat Cost discount) enchantments, but you’re not sticking with Training once you max out the Armor, right? So, assuming we craft a set, what should we Research/Craft, or what dropsets should we be looking for to optimize the rest of the build?

    Unless there’s something numerically superior (I know about) I generally run Divines. That’s the easiest to change without crafting new gear, just fast travel to the Warrior to increase your Power, all those Divines add to the effect of that boon.

    Hey I just added it to the build. You always want to run all divines traits in PvE

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    worhello said on September 30, 2016 :

    Hmm, would there be anything else you could put the extra green CP into rather than regen? Maybe reduced cost of break free and dodge roll?

    Nosferatuzod said on September 30, 2016 :

    As a redguard StamSorc there should not be any regen issues imho.

    Thats entirely up to you, I keep this same CP on all my stam toons, but if you feel like you would benefit more from those other options go for it. Really the only CP distribution thats really vital is the blue one and the reduced skills cost from the green tree.

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    Nosferatuzod said on September 30, 2016 :

    Hey I just added it to the build. You always want to run all divines traits in PvE

    Oh good.  Yeah, that’s what I figured.  It’s just so much easier to hit up the Lover for some Magresist then going beack to the crafting station or the bank to play dressup.  Especially for PvE/Dundeon Running, because the Warrior is great for DPS, but if I’m hitting one with all Archers, and find myself getting pincushioned, I can go to the Lady, then if the next place is mostly Inferno mages I can go with the Lover.  For examples, the base build is DPS, obviously, but Divines gives you a lot more leway fine tuning for the situation (If you know what to expect) than any other effect.  Beats filling up your Inventories with different gear/Runes to respec, and a lot less expensive, too.

     

    Thoughts on Armor Sets?

    Everything above is likely Opinion, and/or subject to change. 

    I mostly play ”Gofasta” Orcish berserkers in Red armor.  (Alluding to WH40K.)

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    FearTurbo said on September 30, 2016 :

    Thanks for the shout out ^_^

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    Psiberzerker said on September 30, 2016 :

    Nosferatuzod said on September 30, 2016 :

    Hey I just added it to the build. You always want to run all divines traits in PvE

    Oh good. Yeah, that’s what I figured. It’s just so much easier to hit up the Lover for some Magresist then going beack to the crafting station or the bank to play dressup. Thoughts on Armor Sets?

    TBS is king

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    Nosferatuzod said on September 30, 2016 :

    TBS is king

    This sounds like Dogma, but rather than delve into that debate, while you think it goes without saying, there’s no telling who will read this when.  So, like Divines, I agree with you on that, but for those not in the know (Who might be searching forums for Build advice) it doesn’t go without saying.

    Just saying.

    Everything above is likely Opinion, and/or subject to change. 

    I mostly play ”Gofasta” Orcish berserkers in Red armor.  (Alluding to WH40K.)

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    Nosferatuzod

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    Psiberzerker said on September 30, 2016 :

    Nosferatuzod said on September 30, 2016 :

    TBS is king

    This sounds like Dogma, but rather than delve into that debate, while you think it goes without saying, there’s no telling who will read this when. So, like Divines, I agree with you on that, but for those not in the know (Who might be searching forums for Build advice) it doesn’t go without saying.

    Just saying.

    Im so confused…but I list TBS as the 5 piece set in the build. What did I make unclear?

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    Nosferatuzod said on September 30, 2016 :

    Im so confused…but I list TBS as the 5 piece set in the build. What did I make unclear?

    Nothing, I’m blind?  It’s a very short line.  I missed it, MM.

     

    Maybe expand it to Twice-Born Star for visibility?  Just a suggestion, and not everyone is going to know what that stands for.  5 TBS isn’t particularly clear.

    Everything above is likely Opinion, and/or subject to change. 

    I mostly play ”Gofasta” Orcish berserkers in Red armor.  (Alluding to WH40K.)

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    liv3mind

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    what is twice born star? is that one of the new sets? or is up updated from an old crappy one?

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    Psiberzerker

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    It’s the Craglorn dropset.  Lets you have 2 Mundus boons, with 5 pieces.

    Everything above is likely Opinion, and/or subject to change. 

    I mostly play ”Gofasta” Orcish berserkers in Red armor.  (Alluding to WH40K.)

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    liv3mind said on September 30, 2016 :

    what is twice born star? is that one of the new sets? or is up updated from an old crappy one?

    It’s gives you +100 to get gud

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    Psiberzerker said on September 30, 2016 :

    It’s the Craglorn dropset.

    It drops in craglorn? Dang does it come in CP 160?;)

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