Best way to do Nightblade Magic user?

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  1. Member AvatarDeimos

    Journeyman

    Dunmer Nightblade

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    I’m kind of thinking of ways to use a nightblade class but almost entirely magic based like a sorcerer, so no melee if possible, what do you think would be some good ways to do achieve this?

  2. Avatar ImageFatalyis

    Grandmaster

    Redguard Nightblade

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    Deimos said on January 26, 2014 :

    I’m kind of thinking of ways to use a nightblade class but almost entirely magic based like a sorcerer, so no melee if possible, what do you think would be some good ways to do achieve this?

    My plan as well, with a couple of my build ideas at least. Destruction Staff would be your go to weapon. Check out the Shadowmancer and Frost Witch builds in my signature to give you some ideas to build your own!
     

  3. Member AvatarESOSorcererMichel

    Scamp

    Breton Sorcerer

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    well if tere is the spell bound bow its still magic based and you’re archery will increase to so that sounds like a plan ?

  4. Avatar ImageBlauz

    Adept

    Breton Sorcerer

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    ESOSorcererMichel said on January 26, 2014 :

    well if tere is the spell bound bow its still magic based and you’re archery will increase to so that sounds like a plan ?

    -Sorry, but I don’t think there is much hope for bound weapons. I can’t imagine a bound weapon ability that remotely compares to the weapons you can aquire in dungeons or other PvE content.

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  5. Avatar ImageAntoine.Bellamont

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    Breton

    Tamriel Trading House NA

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    Siphoning and shadow are your best bet as far as skill lines go. You may enjoy dipping into the destro staff for some more damage abilities as well. I suggest that you take a bit of time and research those trees and think about it.

  6. Member AvatarDeimos

    Journeyman

    Dunmer Nightblade

    Total Posts: 62

    I was thinking about something like this for the basic start of the class, the secondary weapon I’m unsure of, either a restoration staff or after Fatalyis’s Shadowmancer build, a second destruction staff but a different element.

    Dunmer Nightnlade

    7 Light armour

    Destruction Staff – Fire
    1 – Destructive Touch
    2 – Strife
    3 – Agony
    4 – Shadow Cloak
    5 – Path of Darkness

     

    The idea being to hide in the shadows and hit them with some killer shots due to the 70% crit whilst in shadow cloak. Before withering them down and slipping back into the shadows to deliver another blast.

    • This reply was modified 9 months, 1 week ago by Member Avatar Deimos.
  7. Member AvatarESOSorcererMichel

    Scamp

    Breton Sorcerer

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    yeah thats probably true well i do hope to see many good spells in the mages guild skill line like christal shard in de DEV gameply video

  8. Avatar ImagePsiberzerker

    Legend

    Altmer Templar

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    Deimos said on January 26, 2014 :

    …what do you think would be some good ways to do achieve this?

    Shadowmancer {Shrubbery noise}

    • Race:  One of the Magic ones, Altmer, Dunmer, Manmer…
    • Light Armor (Maybe a couple Heavy) Fire, and Lightning Staffs.  Magicka, lots of it.

    Burn:  (Power Attacks lower Resistances)  Mark Target, Force Shock, Strife, Firey Touch(Knockback), Assassin’s Blade, Death Stroke.  Single target, basically everything to make it suck to be them.  And you, Mark Target weakens you to their attacks, so I’d target the Tank, burn him from afar, and Knock him Back when he tries to close the gap.  Strife to recover Health, in case he gets some shots in.

    Blast:  (Power Attacks Arc to secondary targets.)  Wall of Storms, Path of Darkness, Shadowcloak, Drain Power, Impulse, Soul Shred.  Multi-target/AoE, hopefully Lightning will be a rare enough resistance you won’t see it en mass.  PoD isn’t just a speed boost, it deals damage in a line, Drain Power also deals AoD, and powers you up for Impulse.  Shadowcloak is your Exit Strategy, and also to get in to destroy them undetected.  When you fade, they probably expect you to Sideroll/Straffe to escape, not infiltrate, blast them with “Concussion” and run away, giggling…

    Whatever you don’t spend on Magicka should go into Health, “Squishy” doesn’t even begin to describe this, which means your first line of defense is Range on the Meleers.  Hopefully their Ranged will be behind them, so you can kite back away from them.  Second defence is Shadowcloak, so you aren’t targeted, and can run inexplicitely Through their ranks.  Final defense is killing them before they kill you, then you have to worry about Health.  Stamina is almost exclusively for breaking out of CC, immediatly swap to Shadowcloak to reap Refreshing Shadows, and straffe around to a safer (Hopefully untargeted) position…

    I really think Bow/Destruction is a better idea, because SC stunts Magicka, but recovers Stamina, which you can use to shoot them.  Also comes with Volley, and Snipe.

    Everything above is likely Opinion, and/or subject to change. 

  9. Avatar ImageAntoine.Bellamont

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    Breton

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    Shadowcloak in general sets up for some mindbuggery. I love the skill with a passion.

  10. Member AvatarEdris

    Grandmaster

    Breton

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    Deimos said on January 26, 2014 :

    I’m kind of thinking of ways to use a nightblade class but almost entirely magic based like a sorcerer, so no melee if possible, what do you think would be some good ways to do achieve this?

    All class abilities cost magicka.

     

  11. Avatar ImageNijjioN

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    I’ve been thinking of some Nightblade builds… My friends are creating a group for roaming PvP and I think the group stealth will be very good for some tactical plays. Though they don’t think Nightblade will be that useful as not a lot of AOE abilities. They wanting a setup of like 5 sorcs/2dks/1templar for best zerg killing potential.

    Also I like the sound of Teleport Strike with Lotus Fan morph. I can see some cool sort of builds like…

    First using Teleport Strike to get into the enemy, use haste to cast quicker and blur for attacks to miss you more, depending on if it’s good have Destruction Staff using Impulse as your spam-able pbaoe for best zerg killing potential. Though with the information we have now might as well just spam Teleport Strike, though that must be wrong so will have to rethink this when we have more information… Though it’s something I would like to try.

    • This reply was modified 9 months ago by Avatar Image NijjioN.

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  12. Avatar ImageFatalyis

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    Redguard Nightblade

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    NijjioN said on January 27, 2014 :

    I’ve been thinking of some Nightblade builds… My friends are creating a group for roaming PvP and I think the group stealth will be very good for some tactical plays. Though they don’t think Nightblade will be that useful as not a lot of AOE abilities. They wanting a setup of like 5 sorcs/2dks/1templar for best zerg killing potential.

    Also I like the sound of Teleport Strike with Lotus Fan morph. I can see some cool sort of builds like…

    First using Teleport Strike to get into the enemy, use haste to cast quicker and blur for attacks to miss you more, depending on if it’s good have Destruction Staff using Impulse as your spam-able pbaoe for best zerg killing potential. Though with the information we have now might as well just spam Teleport Strike, though that must be wrong so will have to rethink this when we have more information… Though it’s something I would like to try.
    This reply was modified 38 minutes ago by NijjioN.

    While the Nightblade may be lacking in ranged AoE, equipped with a Destruction Staff you can utilize a PBAoE – style to similar effect. I plan on going full-on with a Destruction Staff, so if you would like some help getting a build idea together, either check out a few of those listed in my signature (mainly Shadowmancer and / or Frost Witch) or feel free to message me and we can work up something for you.

    • This reply was modified 9 months ago by Avatar Image Fatalyis.
  13. Avatar ImageNijjioN

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    I had a look at your builds before, build I had vision is closest to your Flamezerker build.

    Potential problems I see is what gear we would use for this build… e.g. build like that has both magic and physical damage and you would need gear that has evenly distributed stats.
    In other games you are jack of all trades and master of none, meaning build might not do much damage at all but you would be average with everything.

    That’s why 1 of my gripes with wanting to use Teleport Strike with destruction staff which are different damage types.

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  14. Avatar ImageFatalyis

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    Redguard Nightblade

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    NijjioN said on January 27, 2014 :

    I had a look at your builds before, build I had vision is closest to your Flamezerker build.

    Potential problems I see is what gear we would use for this build… e.g. build like that has both magic and physical damage and you would need gear that has evenly distributed stats.
    In other games you are jack of all trades and master of none, meaning build might not do much damage at all but you would be average with everything.

    That’s why 1 of my gripes with wanting to use Teleport Strike with destruction staff which are different damage types.

    Having different damage types isn’t a bad thing. For gear, you could easily go (5) Medium (2) Light and rely more on your 2-Hander (or DW if you prefer that route), using the D-Staff as a ranged option. Or, as I was mentioning earlier, use it as a PBAoE.

    Teleport Strike in, pop Drain Power to debuff and boost your damage, a quick Impulse and Wall of Elements, then switch over to your melee weapon(s) and lay down the law. Using a Fire Staff, your Impulse and, maybe, Wall of Elements would put a burning DoT on them that would tick away while you switch up to melee.

    There are a lot of different ways that can be played if you choose to go for a Destruction Staff. The Shock variant is more “AoE” focused with it’s power attacks, adding in splash damage.

    I think that if you were to Teleport Strike into a group and pop Drain Power and Aspect of Terror, that would help your group immensely, especially if they were going the AoE route. It would be your job to keep the group of enemies bunched together, and the snare from Lotus Fan coupled with the PBAoE off Aspect of Terror would help to keep them in place. Follow that up with Impulse and Wall of Elements, or switch off to Dual Wield and spam Whirlwind (which gets bonus damage to low health targets).

    • This reply was modified 9 months ago by Avatar Image Fatalyis.
  15. Member AvatarmorroIan

    Scamp

    Breton Sorcerer

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    Fatalyis-Dalethyl said on January 27, 2014 :

    NijjioN said on January 27, 2014 :

    I’ve been thinking of some Nightblade builds… My friends are creating a group for roaming PvP and I think the group stealth will be very good for some tactical plays. Though they don’t think Nightblade will be that useful as not a lot of AOE abilities. They wanting a setup of like 5 sorcs/2dks/1templar for best zerg killing potential.

    Also I like the sound of Teleport Strike with Lotus Fan morph. I can see some cool sort of builds like…

    First using Teleport Strike to get into the enemy, use haste to cast quicker and blur for attacks to miss you more, depending on if it’s good have Destruction Staff using Impulse as your spam-able pbaoe for best zerg killing potential. Though with the information we have now might as well just spam Teleport Strike, though that must be wrong so will have to rethink this when we have more information… Though it’s something I would like to try.
    This reply was modified 38 minutes ago by NijjioN.

    While the Nightblade may be lacking in ranged AoE, equipped with a Destruction Staff you can utilize a PBAoE – style to similar effect. I plan on going full-on with a Destruction Staff, so if you would like some help getting a build idea together, either check out a few of those listed in my signature (mainly Shadowmancer and / or Frost Witch) or feel free to message me and we can work up something for you.

    I really like your Frost Witch build as a cc/dmg hybrid. I was intending to build a cc/dmg sorceror but it looks like Nightblade would be a better choice of class for that role.

  16. Avatar ImageFatalyis

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    Redguard Nightblade

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    @morroIan Thanks! Since we’re still in beta, all builds / skills are subject to change. I set out to create a “support” style group build that I thought would work rather nicely in Siege defense. The Frost – flavored Destruction Staff gives some nice CC’s….my hope is that the damage isn’t too shabby either. I think you could go either way, Sorcerer or Nightblade, and get a nice CC/Dmg hybrid going….but Siphoning Strikes is unique to the Nightblade and is really something that attracted me to this build idea in the first place.

  17. Avatar ImageNehemia

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    Personally for my Casterblade, I’ll screw destruction staves and siphoning strikes, and will just gold my magicka regen, have high max magicka and focus on high resistance cuts that I utilize on my DoTs, which I’ll have a lot. (That makes weapon choice easy). Its not difficult to build to be honest.

     

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